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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
So I take it you've abandoned your defense of moronic Mexican tariffs and your contention that hundreds of pages of direct evidence laid out in detail is innuendo.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Faith writes: ...Here's Got Questions on the subject of eye for an eye Yup, just pick the stuff you prefer from that little book and away you go.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Yes I eat cheeseburgers too because that no longer violates a law I have to follow. Oh that's bad. Serious, Faith, that stuff can be as bad for your health as ciggs. Your bible was right on this one.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The usual smartass arrogance. The law was changed by God himself. But it wasn't "changed," it was that Jesus' sacrifice fulfilled it all in our place so that we will not be condemned for our failures to obey it.
Here's the passage about the rescinding of the OT food laws as applied to the new Gentile believers:
Acts 11:5-I0 I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me: Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat. But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth. But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven. The following says He "blotted out the written ordinances that were against us" and then lists Old Testament requirements we are no longer to be judged for:
Colossians 2:13-16 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: {I realized the following doesn't apply to this topic but I don't want to erase it because it has something else to say that IMO needs to be said. } And this one mentions abstention from meats as taught by "hypocrites,"which together with forbidding to marry pretty clearly identifies the Roman Church as the hypocrites:
1 Timothy 4:1-3 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lyes in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
As far as health goes, I suspect the hamburger alone is enough of a problem without the cheese. I keep trying to get myself to go vegetarian but it's so much work.
However, God isn't talking about health. All His standards are spiritual in nature. And since I didn't expect to llve anywhere near as long as I have, if I keep going for a few more years despite the cheeseburgers I don't think we can say they are all that bad. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
All His standards are spiritual in nature. So what spiritual significance had this meat-to-milk thing before the ban was lifted? Before the cross did its thing why should my very salvation be contingent upon such a trifle as meat with milk?Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I believe the meat and milk combo prohibition came from the law against "seething the calf in its mother's milk" which got extended to keeping all meat separate from all milk products,possibly without spiritual warrant but I'm not sure. Orthodox Jews observe this rule even today, keeping separate refrigerators for the two.
I'm too lazy to look it up right now to see what the original spiritual meaning was, but I do recall some suggesting that it was intended to teach mercy to animals: boiling the calf in its mother's milk does sound cruel. But there may be other meanings I'll feel up to googling later.
Before the cross did its thing why should my very salvation be contingent upon such a trifle as meat with milk? Something confusing here I'm probably not getting. "Before the cross did its thing" if it applied to you at all you'd have been a Jew. The cross frees us as Christian believers from the whole law given by Moses to the Jews. (In case there is any question it frees Jewish believers in Christ too.) The Jews have made the mistake of thinking the Law can save them but it can't. Those who were saved before Christ came were saved by faith just as we are. The Law was given by God to teach us all that we need Christ for salvation. Some of the Jews got it, most didn't, and today's Jews still llve as if the Law could save them.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Googled it and looked it up on a Bible site and couldn't find it. Must be using a wrong term to search the KJV. Have to try again later.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Very convenient, that.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
So I take it you've abandoned your defense of moronic Mexican tariffs and your contention that hundreds of pages of direct evidence laid out in detail is innuendo.
As usual, Faith sticks with comforting lies rather than inconvenient truths. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Trump called Meghan Markle “nasty” in an interview with The Sun (a right wing but very downmarket newspaper).
Then he denied it on Twitter, accusing The Sun of making it up. They had audio recordings of the interview.
BBC
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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The denial tweet (from his campaign's account) included audio of him calling her nasty. And subtitles for the hearing impaired.
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1134809885957414917 They know just how staggeringly stupid their base is.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Yes he did:
Jesus did not forbid capital punishment....quote:That is a de facto end to capital punishment. No qualified executioners = no executions. Period. There is no possibility of humans ever executing humans without disobeying Jesus. Faith writes:
You're misusing God's word to Noah:
... so God's word to Noah stands.quote:1. It doesn't say anything about murder or an other crime. 2. It says that animals will shed your blood, so it isn't talking about the justice system at all. 3. "the hand of every man's brother" seems pretty clear that it's talking about revenge killings. Izquierdo.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Your quote is wrong. It ignores what the Bible actually says and spins it into the opposite. That's why you shouldn't pay any attention to commentators or apologists. They're pushing their own agenda. Nope. See second quote in Message 2232 Go to the source. The source is clear: Genesis 4, Genesis 9 and John 8, all in agreement.Izquierdo.
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