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Four years ago...such a question would have elicited a very different answer. Though there was disagreement over specific issues, most Republicans would have said the party stood for some basic principles: fiscal sanity, free trade, strong on Russia, and that character and personal responsibility count.

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The problem is, those aren't core conservative values. Your echo chamber columnist was incorrect, most actual Republicans would not have used those honeyed, vague, largely meaningless terms to describe conservativism. As you've shown, they are adaptable to just about any political view. Here's how an actual Republican would have described conservatism; The promotion of individual freedom, the importance of personal responsibility, the reduction of the powers of the federal government, and a maintenance of traditional, Judeo Christian morals.Between Reagan and Trump, 5 career politicians have sought the presidency, Bush 41, Bob Dole, Bush 43, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. All of their beliefs, fading further and further from actual conservatism from 41 to Romney, has made the Trump jolt back to actual conservatism so confusing for you.Here's a look at some actual conservatism from a little over 100 years ago;

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Theodore Roosevelt’s ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.

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In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.

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This goes along very well with Trump's words and actions of today. Another thing that has you confused is how Republicans have had to adapt to largely different circumstances in the past 50 or 60 years, mainly because the Democrat party bears little resemblance of what it was in the past, even since the Reagan administration. Last year, there were re-runs of news reports from 50 years ago, that covered the MLK assassination. There was NO MENTON of the NRA in those reports, there was no climate-change terrorism in those days, there were no cries of healthcare for all in those days, no special-rights-for-gays movements, no demands to dismantle the electoral college, no frivolous articles of impeachment against a properly elected president.There were no Democrats anywhere near a position of power that would succeed in getting frivolous articles of impeachment through the House, then cry because the same president that they're trying so hard to destroy doesn't seek their advise, and risk their leaking of classified information, before he takes proper action in response to an attack on our foreign embassy. Lindsey Graham has always gone where the political winds blow him. He'd probably say that he listens to his constituents, and tries to adapt to their wishes as best he can. Plenty of politicians on both sides do that. I'm not really interested in a discussion on how right or how wrong that is. Hopefully your question is answered - you're welcome. If not, I'll answer any reasonable questions.

What? You need to be told the wall is a bad idea, right? That's what all your talking heads are telling YOU, against all reason, even against former Dem positions. We know a wall is good for America, and our talking heads agree with US.

Yes, that's exactly what people are asking you to do. Quote what they actually say, not what your right-wing sources claim they're saying. You? Intimidated into silence? Did you actually say that?

Nope. You need more than assertions and argument from incredulity Faith. Try FACTS.The media is corporatist, not partisan, it is owned by the 1%, and it goes where the news stories go that increase readership and promote corporatist agenda. That's why news about Bernie Sanders is suppressed and misrepresented, which is counter to your assertions.Curiously I see Faux Noise Nutwerk is even beginning to distance themselves from Trump ... is that a liberal organization now?What I see is evidence of reality, and of democratic processes in the constitution being brought to bear against the most corrupt amoral president in history. It has nothing to do with liberal vs conservative and everything to do with constitutional democracy vs corporatist oligarchy.Enjoy

That was a response to someone who is obsessed with opinionated conservative commentators, who often report news events that the mainstream news media omits. It's one of the many pot-calling-the-kettle-black issues that Trump haters have.

No. I don't. I can figure out its good and bad points by myself. Why can't you?

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That's the most pathetic non-answer misinformation you've made yet.I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.Trump treats immigrants the way Germany treated Jews -- caging them, separating their families, failing to provide medical attention etc -- that fascist.What is comparable done by liberals?Enjoy

I'm not a Trump hater. I think Trump is Baby with a gun. That isn't hate; it's reality.

There's no hope, RAZD, it's out there for you to see, but it's spun into oblivion and I don't know how to get you to see it. Maybe Marc can.

More spin, ringo. I guess the truth is just too much for you. Yes you are a Trump hater. How you can pretend otherwise is mindboggling.

Germany was a dictatorship. Nazism. Italy was Fascist.Conservatives often label today's Democrats as socialists, liberals, communist sympathizers, largely because that's what they are. Those are derogatory terms, and through the 70's and 80's Democrats had no derogatory terms with which to put down conservatives, the term "conservative" isn't, and never has been, a derogatory term. They searched and searched, and finally, taking advantage of the terms "right wing", and "leftist", which were used very differently in 1940's Europe, they found the term "fascist", and adopted that term for conservatives, as if it's the opposite of communism, which it isn't.

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Benito Mussolini, an Italian World War I veteran and publisher of Socialist newspapers, breaks with the Italian Socialists and establishes the nationalist Fasci di Combattimento, named after the Italian peasant revolutionaries, or Fighting Bands, from the 19th century. Commonly known as the Fascist Party, Mussolini’s new right-wing organization advocated Italian nationalism, had black shirts for uniforms, and launched a program of terrorism and intimidation against its leftist opponents.

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Mussolini founds the Fascist party - HISTORY"launched a program of terrorism and intimidation" - does that sound like the climate-change hoax? If one takes into consideration the actual context of of "right wing" and "leftist" labels of that place and time, it becomes very obvious which party in the U.S. today is closest to fascism.

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We've already got the suppression of opposition in the media, including the social media, as I note in relation to Google and You Tube,

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I don’t think that individual media owners influencing coverage is exactly what is meant. Even if your complaints amounted to anything more than your poor search skills. If you want a more worrying example consider the Right’s habit of labelling news they don’t like as Fake News and Trump’s characterisation of journalists as enemies of the people. There is definitely a desire for regimentation of the media there.(And if social media was so controlled by the Left why do they have such big problems with Rightists viciously harrassing people?)

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... regimentation of the economy is in the works as they plan to turn us into a third world swamp by taxing the rich into leaving the country and destroying the middle class.

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Hardly. If you want a better example consider Trump’s attempts to revive the coal industry or the investigation of car manufacturers for choosing to implement more stringent emission controls on their vehicles.

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Regimentation of society is in the endemic conformism of the Left, meaning Marxism and Communism, already so effective through Political Correctness which has people afraid of using wrong word in the presence of Big Brother just as has been the case in every fascistic Communist dictatorship, words that in most cases spell out the very social policies that are designed to destroy liberal government.

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And this is more confusion and conspiracy-mongering. Political Correctness is basically just politeness. Carried to an extreme, perhaps but that is it. The Republican party’s corruption and desire for power is a far bigger threat to democracy.

So no evidence, no facts, just run away from the argument because you don't have anything but opinion, bias, and assertion/s.No I don't see whispy clouds and imaginary beasts, I look at facts. Like the numbers of Trump aides that have been indicted and convicted of crimes versus other presidents, democrat and republican. And the list isn't finished yet, there are more still pending.Trump is working on being the most corrupt, conniving amoral president in history, making a real mark for himself in the history books. There are also criminal cases waiting for him when he leaves the presidency and the protection from Barr and McConnell.How many of Donald Trump's advisers have been convicted? | Trump administration | The Guardianhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/...ld-be-about-to-grow-longerMakes Nixon look like a boy scout. Why, is he better at providing actual facts?Enjoy

Was Theodore Roosevelt a fascist? Climate-change terror. It has been wildly ramped up since the last year of the Obama administration.