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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
The problem is that you don't know how much you don't know. I don't post opinions about things I've said I don't know.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Suppose the happy couple says, "We'll take number three out of the catalogue, with the pink roses. The only thing is, instead of a bride and groom on the top, we want two brides, one with a big handlebar moustache." I don't think there is even such a thing as a "standard" wedding cake. They are specialty items, custom designed for the occasion to the specifications of the parties to be married.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
He ought to laugh. Use your head. How do you think the Christian baker would respond to that? How do you think he would respond? How would you respond? You gay-haters really need to lighten up. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
No He didn't. He didn't say anything about marriage. Marriage is strictly a human invention.
God ordained marriage for a man and a woman, period. Faith writes:
I've already said what a normal human being would do - he'd laugh at the idea of a bride with a big moustache. How do you think a Lord! Lord! Christian would respond? How would you respond? Now use that one brain cell to figure out what the Christian baker would do.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That isn't a "prescription" for marriage. It isn't a commandment. It's, "It shall happen." It isn't, "Thou shalt not." It's just a description of a marriage bond.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Faith writes:
Same as above. It doesn't preclude other forms of bonding.
Matthew 19:4-5 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh... Faith writes:
Illiterate. Liar.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
And yet you do. No Christian has any reason to listen to you.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
There's no need to punish you for that. We just need to point out that you apply "God's laws" hypocrytically and unequally. Simply expressing the opinion that gay marriage is a violation of God's law could become subject to punitive action.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
You'll claim you're being punished, like you always do when your ability to persecute is limited. Oh we'll be punished for it.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
You might pay attention to context - or even read the words at all. The desire is to grind your religion down, not you yourself. You yourself are welcome to believe in leprechauns or whatever but your religion must be deprived of every vestige of the power it has to persecute whomever you don't like. I was responding to AZ's wish to grind my religion back to the stone age and rid society of us. You might pay attention to context.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
"By their fruits ye shall know them." If you think I'm looking forward to Armageddon, which is a horrific war prophesied for the very end of time, no you do not know me at all.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Marriage isn't about biology in the first place; it's a social construct. But even if it was about biology, you're saying that it's absurd for childless heterosexual couples to be married - and for adoptive parents to be married. The absurdity of marrying two people who have no natural biological reason for marriage....All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
It's your so-called "principle" that's absurd. There is no difference "in principle" between one couple that can't have children and another couple that can't have children. It's a PRINCIPLE that defines marriage as for heterosexuals because they have the biological qualifications whether they are defective in them or not.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
It makes no difference what somebody is "biologically built for" if they can't actually do it.
They are biologically built for it and gays are not. Faith writes:
I'm not making a principle of anything. I'm pointing out that your so-called "principle" is nonsensical. You are making a principle out of a mere accidental defect. Besides, there isn't necessarily any "defect" involved at all, either accidental or otherwise. By your so-called principle, a couple who didn't want children would also be ineligible for marriage.
Faith writes:
Gay couples can adopt, which is as effective a cure as any for childlessness. And it is conceivable that their problem could be cured too. Which is not the case for gays.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Then your argument is even more of a failure. If there was no biological "fit" between same-sex couples, there wouldn't be any same-sex couples. I was merely talking about the biological FIT between the sexes.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That's true. In the history of the human race, marriage has usually been about property. Never has it ever been about any silly "biological fit" as you claim. No, in the history of the human race marriage is NOT about love.All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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