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Topic: I Know That God Does Not Exist
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Sarah Bellum
Member (Idle past 626 days) Posts: 826 Joined: 05-04-2019
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Message 1366 of 3207 (858469)
07-20-2019 4:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 1365 by ringo
07-20-2019 4:26 PM
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Re: No evidence = irrational
If I asked you to add two and three and you said "many" one might conclude that you were not giving a rational answer to the question. But if we were living sometime in the Paleolithic, that might very well be considered a rational answer. Remember, I'm not talking about "right" and "wrong" or "correct" and "incorrect" but about rational and irrational.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: No evidence = irrational
Sarah Bellum writes: If I asked you to add two and three and you said "many" one might conclude that you were not giving a rational answer to the question.
"One" would be wrong. As long as I have a rationale for my answer, it is not an irrational answer. A different number system is not irrational. If I say 1+1=10, that is not irrational; it's just a different number system.
All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Sarah Bellum
Member (Idle past 626 days) Posts: 826 Joined: 05-04-2019
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Message 1368 of 3207 (858474)
07-20-2019 5:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 1367 by ringo
07-20-2019 4:56 PM
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Re: No evidence = irrational
So if I ask you to add two and three and you answered "many" is that a rational answer?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: No evidence = irrational
Sarah Bellum writes: So if I ask you to add two and three and you answered "many" is that a rational answer?
Yes, if those are the only numbers available. What other answer is possible?
All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Sarah Bellum
Member (Idle past 626 days) Posts: 826 Joined: 05-04-2019
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Message 1370 of 3207 (858476)
07-20-2019 5:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 1369 by ringo
07-20-2019 5:16 PM
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Re: No evidence = irrational
If. Other. Numbers. Are. Available. It. Is. Not. Rational. Yes?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: No evidence = irrational
Sarah Bellum writes: If. Other. Numbers. Are. Available. It. Is. Not. Rational. Yes?
But you said yourself, those are the only numbers they have. Are you suggesting that every mathematical thought those people have is irrational just because YOU have a different number system?
All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Sarah Bellum
Member (Idle past 626 days) Posts: 826 Joined: 05-04-2019
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Message 1372 of 3207 (858479)
07-20-2019 5:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 1371 by ringo
07-20-2019 5:26 PM
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Re: No evidence = irrational
I wasn't asking about what they did. I'm asking about you. You have more numbers available. Would it be irrational for you to answer "many"?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: No evidence = irrational
Sarah Bellum writes: Would it be irrational for you to answer "many"?
Asked and answered. I said that if I have a rationale for my answer, it is not irrational. That rationale could be a lack of alternative numbers or it could be something else. What's irrational is YOUR insistence on branding ideas as "irrational" without even considering the rationale behind them.
All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: No evidence = irrational
duplicate Edited by ringo, : No reason given.
All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Sarah Bellum
Member (Idle past 626 days) Posts: 826 Joined: 05-04-2019
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Message 1375 of 3207 (858482)
07-20-2019 5:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 1373 by ringo
07-20-2019 5:45 PM
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Re: No evidence = irrational
So, since you don't lack "alternative numbers" as a rationale, you either have to supply a different rationale, or state that there is none.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: No evidence = irrational
Sarah Bellum writes: So, since you don't lack "alternative numbers" as a rationale, you either have to supply a different rationale, or state that there is none.
And as long as I have a rationale, I am not irrational. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 1377 of 3207 (858488)
07-20-2019 7:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 1291 by ringo
07-17-2019 5:10 PM
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Re: chances
ringo writes: Also according to Judeo-Christian folklore: quote: Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. The Bible doesn’t say life arose NATURALLY from inanimate matter. Genesis 2:7 says God breathed life into inanimate matter.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Re: chances
Sarah Bellum writes: As for intelligence having to exist before intelligence can exist . . . isn't that a contradiction in your position?
My position is, intelligence cannot come from non-intelligence.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 1379 of 3207 (858490)
07-20-2019 7:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 1302 by Stile
07-18-2019 8:28 AM
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Re: No evidence = irrational
Stile writes: Unless you can provide any amount of evidence that suggests God actually exists?
Life arising naturally from inanimate matter defies science. But what is the point of offering such evidence to someone who is determined to reject any evidence for God’s existence?
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 1380 of 3207 (858496)
07-20-2019 8:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 1379 by Dredge
07-20-2019 7:25 PM
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Re: No evidence = irrational
But what is the point of offering such evidence to someone who is determined to reject any evidence for God’s existence? Like what evidence?
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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