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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Stile writes:
How do you know the idea has no connection to reality unless you look for a connection to reality? We don't have to look for God at all - because the idea has no connection to reality."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Stile writes:
I can know how to bake a cake. I can demonstrate to your satisfaction and anybody else's that I know it. You can't know anything at all. You can no more demonstrate that you "know" God exists than Faith can demonstrate that she "knows" He does."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
Nonsense. Put up or shut up. Now you're trying to go back and change what you claim you said."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Scientists don't get their knowledge from studying texts. They get it from studying evidence. they write the texts. And they get Nobel prizes by overthrowing the status quo. It's just utterly absurd to suggest that they all have the same biases which prevent them from seeing your "truth". By studying the same scientific texts. What else?"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Stile writes:
That wasn't the question. If nobody was claiming a connection to reality, how would you know whether there was a connection to reality? Same as for anything else: Those claiming that the idea has a connection to reality need to show that connection to reality."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Stile writes:
Then you can stop saying that I can't know anything.
I agree you can know how to bake a cake Stile writes:
That's not a demonstration. That should be fairly obvious since there is no connection to reality. there is no cake.
It's demonstrated like this: There is no connection from the imagination of God to reality. Stile writes:
Again, you're the one making a positive claim that the negative is true. The onus is on you to back up your claim. Just provide the connection from imagination to reality for God and it all goes away."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Stile writes:
You've already admitted that I can know something. I will not admit that you can "know" a negative in the same way. So no.
Only if you stop saying you can't know negative things. Stile writes:
Nonsense.
If you can't know negative things, then you can't know positive things either... Stile writes:
You keep demanding a connection to reality. Now you show one. It is a demonstration. You can't just wave your magic wand and pull the curtain away and say, "Voila! Elephants don't exist." That is not a demonstration of reality."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah writes:
Liar. I've done all the explaining. I've asked you to explain the logic errors in the idea of God. You steadfastly refuse to do so. You're the one who's dodging."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
It wasn't intended to be, grandma. Why don't you answer the questions I ask you? Sorry kid, "nonsense" isn't an argument."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Stile writes:
Exactly. It is not based on the information that is not available. Knowledge is based on the information available to us. You can say, "I don't know X," because of a lack of information. You can not say, "I know not-X," because of a lack of information. Lack of information determines what we don't know, not what we do know. "Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
No. You are a Christian, aren't you?"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
You have not answered this: I've answered everything in great detail. What are the logical errors in the idea of God?1. _____________. 2. _____________. 3. _____________. "Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Stile writes:
Demonstrate it. The reality is: There is no connection between the imagination of God and reality. Failure to find it is not a demonstration. It's a lack of demonstration."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Stile writes:
That's what you're saying. We've looked but we found nothing.
Are you saying we have no available information? Stile writes:
I'm saying they have rationally searched and some of them have found. Are you saying people haven't irrationally searched for God for thousands of years and found nothing?"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Stile writes:
And lack of knowledge is not knowledge. Same error again. Again - knowledge is not absolute."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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