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Topic: I Know That God Does Not Exist
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 2977 of 3207 (896544)
08-12-2022 9:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 2909 by ringo
08-08-2022 12:54 PM
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ringo writes: Again, it isn't about proof.
I'm afraid it is about proof. The statement, "I know that God does not exist" carries with it the burden of proof. If I declared, "I know that Santa Claus does not exist", I would then be expected to prove that Santa does not exist ... otherwise I would rightly be viewed as a bs-artist.
This thread is about weight of evidence.
If the statement, "I know God that does not exist", were a theory, the thread would then be about weight of evidence ... but that statement is not a theory - it is a claim to knowledge, which consequently carries the burden of proof.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 2978 of 3207 (896545)
08-12-2022 9:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 2916 by Phat
08-09-2022 6:32 PM
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Re: The Man In The Book
Phat writes: So you are saying that its highly illogical and unbelievable that there is a higher power, Creator of all seen and unseen. And I am assuming that your "standard" of evidence excludes the personal experience and perspective of many others.
Well said, Phat. Atheists deny the personal experiences of believers simply because they don't want such experiences to exist .. just as they don't want God to exist. I've personally experienced two miracles, but atheists dismiss them as lies or madness ... any lame excuse to deny evidence of God's existence.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Re: The Man In The Book
Tanypteryx writes: If there were any higher powers that wanted us to know they exist, it would be easy to give us absolute evidence.
A higher power did let me know it exists with absolute evidence - I've experienced two miracles.
Phat writes: Is your imagination limited by science?
ringo writes:
Of course not, it's informed by reality
And how would you define "reality"? Wait, let me guess ... reality is defined by the parameters of science.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 2982 of 3207 (896549)
08-12-2022 10:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 2932 by Percy
08-10-2022 8:43 AM
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Re: The Man In The Book
Percy writes: Wars and earthquakes and hurricanes and Down's syndrome and cancer and Alzheimers and MS and Parkinson's and ebola and Tom Cruise and on and on, and he wants you to worship him for this?
So there's nothing good in the world?
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 2985 of 3207 (896552)
08-12-2022 10:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 2983 by ringo
08-12-2022 10:19 PM
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ringo writes: Science is never about proof.
Which part of "I know that God does not exist" is about science?
Science is never about proof.
Really? So science can't prove that Tiger Woods can hit a golf ball further than me? Science can't prove that water boils at about 100^C under standard pressure at sea level? Science can't prove that DNA produces mutations? I think you meant to say, "A scientific theory is never about proof."
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Re: The Man In The Book
Tanypteryx writes: I think reality is everything that is not imaginary or supernatural.
And how do you determine what "is not imaginary or supernatural"? Wait, let me guess ... the parameters of science.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 2990 of 3207 (896557)
08-13-2022 2:22 AM
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Reply to: Message 2983 by ringo
08-12-2022 10:19 PM
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ringo writes: Science is never about proof.
So science can't prove that a change in the DNA sequence of an organism results in a mutation?
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 3002 of 3207 (896575)
08-13-2022 2:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 2992 by Phat
08-13-2022 12:41 PM
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Re: Pot Meet Kettle?
Phat writes: Wow! Quite a taunting little video...does even Dredge deserve it?
If dwise1 thinks I deserve it, then I deserve it. But I actually quite like that little video; it's funny.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 3003 of 3207 (896576)
08-13-2022 2:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 2997 by Percy
08-13-2022 1:11 PM
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 3004 of 3207 (896577)
08-13-2022 2:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 2998 by dwise1
08-13-2022 1:37 PM
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Re: Pot Meet Kettle?
dwise1 writes:
These things have been explained to him repeatedly for many months, yet he just keeps on posting the same stupid BS nonsense. He is being most stubbornly willfully stupid about everything, reverting to stupid taunts repeatedly ... He is far less than a bottom-feeding troll.
Those accusations are grossly unfair and lack empathy, compassion and understanding. I'm just a stumbling, bumbling idiot trying to survive and make sense of a baffling world. My latest struggle is trying to get my tiny little fragile egg-shell mind around the claim that science can't prove anything. Edited by Dredge, .
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Re: The Man In The Book
Tanypteryx writes: I think reality is everything that is not imaginary or supernatural. You didn't answer my question: How do you determine what is "not imaginary or supernatural"?
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 3006 of 3207 (896579)
08-13-2022 3:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 2989 by ringo
08-12-2022 10:54 PM
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Dredge writes: Which part of "I know that God does not exist" is about science?
ringo writes: The part that's in the Science Forums - i.e. all of it.
I didn't know science includes discussions about God. Edited by Dredge, .
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 3012 of 3207 (896585)
08-14-2022 2:41 AM
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Reply to: Message 3000 by Percy
08-13-2022 1:53 PM
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Re: The Man In The Book
I can't prove it ... any more than science can prove that the process described by ToE produced the fossil record.
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Parsomnium writes: So you're trying to show my argument is stupid by using a counter-argument that's... well, profoundly stupid?
No. I wish to withdraw my argument on account of it being stupid ... maybe even profoundly stupid. In an attempt to save face, I will place the blame for my mistake on a lack of coffee. Yep, that'll work ... Edited by Dredge, . Edited by Dredge, . Edited by Dredge, .
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 3021 of 3207 (896595)
08-14-2022 3:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 3007 by Phat
08-13-2022 3:31 PM
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Re: Parameters By Definition
Phat writes: When you had your confirmation on the road to becoming a "good" Catholic
What do you mean by 'a "good" Catholic'?
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 3007 by Phat, posted 08-13-2022 3:31 PM | | Phat has replied |
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