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Faith 
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Message 887 of 5796 (848196)
02-01-2019 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 886 by DrJones*
02-01-2019 4:07 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
He's not careful about such facts, and that in itself is a big failing, but it's not lying. He doesn't pay close attention to particulars. He should, but he doesn't. It's not lying although I agree it's a big fault of his.

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Message 890 of 5796 (848199)
02-01-2019 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 880 by Theodoric
02-01-2019 3:04 PM


Re: Jobs Americans won't do
Self awareness is not one of your strong suits I see.
Perhaps you are right. In which case you need to explain what you mean.

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Faith 
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Message 892 of 5796 (848202)
02-01-2019 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 889 by AZPaul3
02-01-2019 4:16 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
But, Love, your politics, religion, philosophy, world view are not just different from mine or different from the majority but are evil and down right dangerous to our species as a whole.
Just say it straight and hate me honestly as everybody else here does, and leave off the "M'Love" crap. I feel very much the same about YOUR politics, philosophy and worldview, that they are sheer evil and dangerous to everything good in this world. Positively toxic and lethal in fact. Totalitarian, anti-American and fundamentally inhumane. Now, your use of the word "love" is cynicism itself.
Oh gosh, you would actually say it's just the way you are? That's crap, AZ, cut it out.
Oh and my views are pretty consistent with the millions who voted for Trump, not different from THAT majority.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 893 of 5796 (848203)
02-01-2019 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 891 by DrJones*
02-01-2019 4:24 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
That kind of discrepancy can't be a lie, it's too blatant.

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Faith 
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Message 899 of 5796 (848211)
02-01-2019 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 895 by DrJones*
02-01-2019 4:53 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Aside from the fact that I really don't believe that, it doesn't matter either to what I'm saying or to your claim about the election.
The reason we have the Electoral College is that the popular vote is a false representation of the nature of the country. The densely populated areas all vote as one anyway, so you can count that three million and much more as one urban-centered Leftist vote.
And it has nothing to do with what I was saying anyway. AZ treated my opinion as far from the majority, but in fact it represents most of those who voted for Trump.

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Faith 
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Message 902 of 5796 (848215)
02-01-2019 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 896 by JonF
02-01-2019 4:55 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Nope.
As I suggested to PaulK, go google "Narcissistic personality charming"
Narcissistic Personality Disorder Characteristics:
  • Lack of empathy
  • Exaggerated sense of self-importance.
  • Feelings of entitlement.
  • Selfishness in relationships.
  • Enviousness and suspicion of other people's motivations
  • A need for excessive praise and attention.
  • Insistence on associating only with other special people
  • Preoccupied by fantasies of great achievements, power, or recognition
  • Feelings of inferiority, insecurity, and low self-esteem, and an extreme need for the approval of others
Perhaps selfishness in relationships, which would fit a vast majority of human beings anyway. But NONE of the rest. In fact it is absurd to impute those qualities to Trump.
If Trump had some unusual need of praise and approval he couldn't have lasted the first month in office with the vicious attacks against him that have continued unabated in the press and the social media from the beginning. I certainly don't see feelings of insecurity considering how amazingly strong he has been at facing down his critics. Good grief, nobody has been as strong as Trump in the situation he's in, or could be.
Need to be among special people? My impression is that he prefers the company of blue collar workers and is rather uncomfortable among the elites in Washington.
Entitlement? How?
Exaggerated sense of self importance? How? I see him as sincerely trying to live up to his promises to his supporters, not putting himself above anybody. Where do you get this stuff?
Envy? How? Good grief, envy? That's the hallmark of the Left. And so is a sense of entitlement. Not Trump.
Suspiciousness of other people's motivations? Actually I think he's way too trusting and accepts people into his inner circle he shouldn't have accepted, because he isn't suspicious enough.
And so on. I think this list is at best Liberal Paranoia and at worst Leftist hatred finding a bunch of lies to rally round.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 906 of 5796 (848224)
02-01-2019 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 904 by JonF
02-01-2019 5:40 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
You are describing a phantom of your own making.

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Faith 
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Message 908 of 5796 (848227)
02-01-2019 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 907 by DrJones*
02-01-2019 6:17 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Please add a substantial quote from the link.

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Faith 
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Message 913 of 5796 (848248)
02-01-2019 11:52 PM
Reply to: Message 912 by 14174dm
02-01-2019 11:22 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
It's the Left that does the voter fraud.
But the Electoral college is about geography, not people.

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Faith 
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Message 919 of 5796 (848258)
02-02-2019 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 917 by Percy
02-02-2019 9:25 AM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
The electoral college makes sure the rural areas won't always be overshadowed by the urban areas, by favoring states as such over population. There is no particular bias to the rural areas, it just gives their votes a proper balance. Without the electoral college they'd never be heard from at all.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 920 of 5796 (848259)
02-02-2019 9:46 AM
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02-01-2019 6:26 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
Perhaps he knows a lot more than you are willing to grant.

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Faith 
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Message 921 of 5796 (848260)
02-02-2019 9:47 AM
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02-01-2019 5:40 PM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
I don't see any "constant craving for praise" and don't know where you get that.

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Faith 
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Message 927 of 5796 (848271)
02-02-2019 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 924 by Percy
02-02-2019 10:14 AM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
But desperation in rural regions, whose concerns had perhaps not been given sufficient consideration, gave rise to the Tea Party and the Freedom Caucus and sent uncompromising ideologues to Congress who were so tightly wrapped in their righteousness that they embraced undemocratic tactics to further their ends, such as their manipulation of the judiciary by holding up Obama appointments, including one to the Supreme Court.
To my mind that statement shows an abysmal lack of understanding of what brought about the Tea Party and the election of Trump both. To call them "uncompromising ideologues" when such a term really describe the Left is utterly bizarre to me. And interfering with judiciary appointees is even more aggressive from the Left. The politicization of the judiciary is the root problem and that's the Left's doing. You inhabit some other planet, with all the Lefties here. The chasm seems to be unbridgeable.

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Faith 
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Message 929 of 5796 (848273)
02-02-2019 10:33 AM
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02-02-2019 10:30 AM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
And you must be from one of the farthest planets in the entire universe.
What I said was simple truth as I see it.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 930 of 5796 (848275)
02-02-2019 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 925 by JonF
02-02-2019 10:16 AM


Re: Senate Resolution to Condemn Trump on Foreign Policy
I listened to the first few minutes and may eventually listen to the rest, but if it goes on in the same vein I certainly don't see any personal need for praise in him, he may exaggerate the achievements of his administration, but I'm not even sure he's doing that, but his focus is on the work he wanted to do and is doing, not on himself.

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