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Message 11 of 1406 (372631)
12-28-2006 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by New Cat's Eye
12-28-2006 5:23 PM


Re: God capable of logical impossibilities?
Catholic Scientist

I believe that god is omnipotent.

Can God be both Omnipotent and not Omnipotent at the same time in logical contradiction?


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Message 18 of 1406 (372788)
12-29-2006 2:29 PM
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12-28-2006 9:56 PM


Re: God capable of logical impossibilities?
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How about Omnipotent and powerless at the same time?


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Message 20 of 1406 (372798)
12-29-2006 3:14 PM
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12-29-2006 3:00 PM


Re: God capable of logical impossibilities?
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That's the same question

Actually it is not since non omnipotence can be any level up to but falling short of omnipotence itself.

Anyway we need to resolve how a God can engage in the logical impossibilities if he is powerless and how such a state{ Omnipotence and impotence} can been considered achievable even in a world without rules of logic.


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Message 23 of 1406 (372806)
12-29-2006 4:08 PM
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Re: God capable of logical impossibilities?
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Why do we have to come up with how its possible?

Because while the omnipotence side of the equation works at the same time we have powerlessness which negates the ability so it now becomes a case concerning what it means to allow for logical impossibilities.

Can we indeed allow for logical impossibility while at the same time maintaining a definition of Omnipotence and powerlessness whose states depend upon logical structures in order to define them?


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