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Trixie Member (Idle past 3735 days) Posts: 1011 From: Edinburgh Joined: |
Buz, have you actually looked into the accuracy of this lunatic's claims?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Santorum: Higher Education a Plot to Secularize America – Mother Jones
quote: Then there is his silly grandstanding misinterpretation of the wall between church and state, as stated by Kennedy. [/puke] Next will we see Mitt try to out fanatic this? Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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RAZD writes: And he floated the idea of requiring that universities that receive public funds have intellectual diversity on campus. So we get 'intellectual diversity" by testing everyone and then making sure we have some really really fucking stupid students, really fucking stupid students, plain fucking stupid students, smart students, brilliant students and geniuses? Well at least we know, even with out the test, that Santorum is in the really really fucking stupid class. Man I hope he gets the nomination!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 314 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
He claimed that 62 percent of kids who go into college with a faith commitment leave without it, but declined to cite a source for the figure. Well of course. Citing sources would make him one of Them.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Hi Dr Adequate,
Well of course. Citing sources would make him one of Them. Actually I remember this being brought up here, although I can't vouch for the actual percentage. Can't find the reference. The problem of course is conflating kids with falsified beliefs (such as a young earth and\or misinformation about evolution, then being confronted with the evidence that shows such beliefs to be false, and the subsequent loss of faith) with kids of all other faiths. Losing or letting go of falsified beliefs is a good thing, isn't it? Isn't that what a good education is all about? Don't blame college for faith loss, experts tell Santorum - The Salt Lake Tribune
quote: So the kids lose (dropout) faith whether they go to college or not? Should they not be comparing the dropout rates for kids of different religious backgrounds instead? That's an expert?
quote: LOL: it's the parents fault not the school ... the kids don't have a strong enough faith ... Perhaps it's because they were told things that just are not true and that led them to question the whole kit and kaboodle? [abe]: this article ...College Kills Faith? - FactCheck.org ... provides more information on what Santorum probably based his claim on, as well as showing how much Santorum misrepresented Obama's position, when in fact it matches his own (or what he claims anyway). Of course the gullible will not be swayed by the actual facts.[abe] Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : abeby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Hi Tanypteryx,
So we get 'intellectual diversity" by testing everyone and then making sure we have some really really fucking stupid students, really fucking stupid students, plain fucking stupid students, smart students, brilliant students and geniuses? What, some kind of affirmative action for kids that don't make the grade? Or does he mean that there should be courses in astrology? Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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Astrology is hard, RAZD! Almost as bad as remembering your dilutions in homeopathy!
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Losing or letting go of falsified beliefs is a good thing, isn't it? Isn't that what a good education is all about? Not when those beliefs are The TRVTH.TMRidicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Yes, Santorum is a buffoon. No question about that. But an idiot politician is no real surprise. The most amusing part is the cheering throngs that don't even blink at this stuff. Only in America can a politician go on ranting, incoherent tirades against higher education, affordable health care, and the environment in their own country and get a standing O.
Seriously, are there actually large numbers of people who not only don't want to go to college, but also don't want their children to have the opportunity? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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In the US, Avoidance Schools as well as Avoidance TV and Avoidance Web Browsers and Avoidance Textbooks are big business.
Look up the lyrics to "Old Time Religion" and then change that the word religion to education and you will get a feel for the CCoI.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 831 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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Seriously, are there actually large numbers of people who not only don't want to go to college, but also don't want their children to have the opportunity? I don't honestly think that is the case. I think it's the way yahoos like Santorum pander the idea. "The government is MAKING your child get an education and you don't have a choice." They know how to elicit the fear of the boogeyman "big government" to their conservative base. The people who are cheering don't actually listen to what the guy says. They don't put two and two together with what he means. There intentions only become visible to people who actually think for themselves and can interpret the meaning of his speeches and those people wouldn't be cheering him in the first place or even be at the rally. That, or there really are people who despise/fear education and see no need for it. "I can learn everything I need to know from my bible or on the job"."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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Jon Inactive Member |
Seriously, are there actually large numbers of people who not only don't want to go to college, but also don't want their children to have the opportunity? They don't want other people's children to have the opportunity. They've been convinced that they'll be able to afford it; it's just those other leeches that want the free ride. Jon Edited by Jon, : magical desiresLove your enemies!
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
wonder what those debates would have been like if there had been a truth checking panel with a big buzzer ...
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1434 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Mitt Romney Recalls Parade That Occurred Before He Was Born | HuffPost Latest News quote: Who needs facts when you're pandering ... Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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wonder what those debates would have been like if there had been a truth checking panel with a big buzzer ...
It would have sounded like someone playing Operation in the middle of an 8.0 earthquake.
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