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Only a minority of TPs think he was born in the US, according to opinion polls. So "a fraction" yes, but one that's greater than 1/2.

I tried to make a similar distinction in another thread - that fascists may not necessarily be bullies even if they do tend to attract bullies. Subtlty often doesn't fly very high at EvC. The tar brush is wide.

Herman Cain was initially quite the favorite of the Tea Party. Perhaps we should note that when calling them racists.

so you finally got a deal to fund the government damn i was hooping for another world financial collapse.

This is no different than when a racist excuses his racism by claiming he has friends that are black.Kinja

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[Cain] says he didn't want to make trouble during the civil rights movement. He believes if you don't have a job, it's your fault. And he's constantly throwing in little self-deprecating minstrel-ish digs like calling himself "Cornbread."

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He's a black man constantly dissing black people and distancing himself from black people. Far from proving the Tea Party isn't racist, he ratifies that they are. He gives them comfort. He's a black man who seems to know his place.

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So...TP opposes Obama because he's black. This means they're racist.TP supports Cain despite the fact he's black. This means they're racist.If both the positive and negative observation support the same hypothesis, the logical conclusion is that the observation is incidental, and not causal.When's the last time, do you think, that the KKK, an actual racist organization, supported a black candidate for any public office?As an alternative hypothesis, did it ever occur to you that the Tea Party could attract racists and Randian libertarians for separate reasons, despite overlap between the two groups? That hypothesis would seem to fit better with the seemingly contradictory evidence of opposition of one person for his race, and support for another candidate despite being of that same race.Some members of the Tea Party are racist. Some are not. It seems inaccurate to identify the Tea Party as a racist organization when racism is not a prerequisite of membership, racist policies are not among the stated goals of the organization, and the organization has supported black candidates in the past.

Well they supported Obama LOL

I sometimes wonder what it would be like if McCain and Palin had won the election of 2008.Palin a admitted Tea Party supporter and McCain a Neocon.So lets look back, the economy tanked and the U.S. was engaged in two wars. We were on the brink of a depression and the U.S. has lost all credibility globally.If Obama had not won that election would would all be eating beans and greens grown from our back yards, taxes would be collected to support our wars abroad and we would be living in a feckless theocratic police state. Ok may not that bad but you get my point.

I would suggest that anyone attracted to the Tea Party because they were actually libertarians is a clueless idiot. I'd also wonder if they'd actually read The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged. But yes there are some political ideas other than hatred of Obama as a human being involved, so I'll instead pretend that you had suggested one of those ideas.I see your point. So as soon as the Tea Party kicks the racists to the curb, maybe their rep as something other than haters will improve.

I think this is vastly oversimplifying the situation. While there are some tea party members who are racist, and others who are not... if you look at the makeup of the party, the percentage of members of the Tea Party who are very vocal racists is much higher than the general population. I think the reason is that both racists and conservatives tend to be much more susceptible to fear tactics, and the negative 'the world is being destroyed ' message is the one the tea party buys into.So, while the tea party might not be a racist organization per say, because of the fear tactics that it employs, it attracts a higher percentage of people who ARE racist.

Have you guys heard? Republican civil war!

Well, this could be interesting; finally we may see that today's Republican Party has nothing to do with the Grand Old Party and is solely made up of Nutjobs (Tea Party) and the worst of Capitalism, true Fascists.Engine Charlie will be thrilled.

I think it's simpler than that. The Tea Party doesn't shy away from anti-Obama politics and other rhetoric that is non-racist on its face. For example, the line between strong anti-immigration policy and xenophobia can be really blurry. That politics is going to resonate with racists. So that's where the racists going to hang.

And in other news.. Romney, (remember Romney, that Republican who lost), is
getting sued for Racketeering in Federal courthttp://petters-fraud.com/...romney_lawsuit_press_release.pdf

We may view them as racist, but they don't consider themselves as such. They'll trot out their favorite conservative who happens to be black & carry on without incident.As I said before, Dr. Carson is a perfect icon for TPers & has just signed on with Fox News, & we know how many former & future presidential candidates use that media platform. I think Sean Hannity is racist, but he just points to his "vote for Carson in a minute" speech & blythly carries on inciting Tea Party fear. And so, the other racists lurking in that group have their cover.So what, we think there might be a higher percentage of racists teabagging? They've convinced themselves otherwise.They hate progressive ideas. They're afraid of progress & the loss of white male American power. The crazy allegations will follow any liberal seeking the White House. Calling out the crazy, instead of the particular theme in use, is more compelling in talking to the fuzzy middle of American politics. IMHO.