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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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shadow71 writes:
Hmm. Maybe I will have to rethink my views Excellent post nwr. I agree with you completely. That may be a first for you and I on this board. I see this from the vantage point of a college campus. After the civil right legislation of the 1960s, there was an opening up of admission policies to achieve a more balanced student population. But when you looked around, you would see very little mixing of the races. The black students would walk and talk with other black students, they would eat at black tables. And the same could be said of white students. Today, it is very different. There is a lot more mixing. This is a huge change. Obama could not have been elected without that change. But it is a change mainly in the younger generation. If you look at the older generation, there has not been as much of a change. I suppose that's because one's outlook on these things is formed while young. There has still been some change. Many older folk are reasonably comfortable with the taxi driver being black, or the sales clerk at the local store being black. But apparently, a black president is a step too far for some of them to accept. All in all, I think the change that I see among college students is an indicator of an improvement in racial relations. And, at the same time, the openness of Internet communication might well cause a move away from the more fundamentalist brands of religion. We are currently at an awkward crossroad in an era of change. And the current Republican madness is caught up in the contradiction of that transition.Jesus was a liberal hippie
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Perdition writes:
The public, for the most part, is more centrist than liberal.The last two Democratic presidents we've had: Clinton and Obama, were both more centrist than liberal. However, the Republican Party always labels the Democratic president or candidate as "liberal." I have been saying that the Republicans are unfit to govern, since around 1990. That's about when they got seriously into this labeling and into avoiding actual discussions of policy. Gingrich is at least partly to blame, though he is not the only one.Jesus was a liberal hippie
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
I wonder how accurate these figures are?
I'm a bit skeptical. To put this is perspective, in the 2008 Democratic primaries, some Republicans were calling on their membership to do similar "mischief" voting. The turnout in primaries is often small enough, that a small determined group can get enough votes to have some impact. If there really were 10%, that might mean that many Republicans chose to sit out the primaries, perhaps because they are disgusted with all of their candidates.Jesus was a liberal hippie
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
waste of bandwidth.
Yes, it's a waste of bandwidth. On the other hand, I am not using a 110 baud teletype over dialup any more.Jesus was a liberal hippie
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Taq writes:
Can we have another Sarah Palin? The stand up comedians are waiting to hear.I think discussion of probable running mates might fit in this thread. Jesus was a liberal hippie
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Other blog articles related to the Bachmann announcement ...
Also worth mentioning:
Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
I'm not sure that the Tea Party can be wholly blamed on the Republican Party.
Sure, it can. The Republican party has been encouraging racism and fundamentalist Christian extremism since around 1980. Sure, they encouraged it with a wink and a nod, so that they could maintain plausible deniability. But what they were doing was well understood, even if it was hard to directly point the finger. They created a monster.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Have you considered that the Republican party of today isn't the same as the Republican party of the 90s?
That's true. From my perspective, the Republican party of the '90s was unfit to govern. The Republican party of today seems to be calling out for euthanasia.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Alas, From my perspective, the democrats ARE the 1990 republicans.
I don't see them as unfit to govern. The democrats are the poster child for bungling incompetence. But perhaps that has always been true. And, yes, they have moved far to the right of where they traditionally were. Yes, I too would like to see the moderate republicans become the party.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
we have a system of proportional representation in the national parliament You don't give your location, but that sounds Australian.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
There doesn't seem to be any reason why it wouldn't work in the US. We have these things called "Republicans".Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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So, I'll be posting some contrary opinions, and we'll see how statists like being picked on for a change.
I shall be be looking forward to the entertainment.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Otherwise, it is clear that any social system that takes away individual initiative is doomed to fail.
You must be referring to a capitalist system that hoards all of the wealth for the richest few. Yes, that is doomed to fail.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
The remedy, unfortunately, is the long hard slog of Constitutional Amendment.
That should not be needed. Congress can establish a new form of incorporation that restricts political campaigning for corporations. A change in corporate taxes could strongly encourage migration to the new form of incorporation.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Anybody watching? Yes. It is great entertainment.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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