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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3696 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Why I think Osama - oops I mean Obama - is no Christian. Aside from fooling America with YES WE CAN bytes and faking his birth certificate, its not only what he says but what he does not. Guess why he never quoted the Quran here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sy9kMxOEVs&feature=youtu...
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Is there any chance you will ever stay on topic?
and what the hell is this supposed to mean
DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU BELIEVE You do know that that is not how the aphorism goes, don't you? Were you trying to be witty?
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3976 Joined: |
I put out the warning in message 195.
Subtitle of the above cited:
Adminnemooseus writes: Message content should have a connection to Republican presidential candidates Your message:
IAJ writes: Why I think Osama - oops I mean Obama - is no Christian. Aside from fooling America with YES WE CAN bytes and faking his birth certificate, its not only what he says but what he does not. Guess why he never quoted the Quran here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sy9kMxOEVs&feature=youtub... Last warning! AdminnemooseusPlease be familiar with the various topics and other links in the "Essential Links", found in the top of the page menu. Amongst other things, this is where to find where to report various forum problems.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4173 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Bachman said the following at a speech in Minneapolis in 2006.
quote: quote: Read more Interesting piece on Bachman from The New Yorker. I like her even less now. Totally not who I want to see running this country."No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. |
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4173 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
quote: Read more I had never heard of Dominionism until right now. Can it get any worse? "No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Ah yes, Dominionism.
* ''World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. [...] Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land - of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts, and governments for the Kingdom of Christ.'' (404- Not Found) * ''All who are content with a humanistic law system and do not strive to replace it with Biblical law are guilty of idolatry. They have forsaken the covenant of their God, and they are asking us to serve other gods.'' (404- Not Found) * ''The Bible contains the directives of the King of kings for every area of human activity, including civil government, economics, art, science, family, church, and more. Activity in each sphere is to be governed by the Law of God.'' (Christian Reconstruction: A Call for Reformation and Revival The Forerunner) * ''What about Old Testament laws that require stoning, such as Exodus 21:17,'' "And he who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death." The question about incorrigible children is a common one. The so-called "harshness" of this punishment is often posed to refute the idea of theonomy as the basis for civil law. However, I know that this law and its punishment under the Old Covenant was just because God is just. Therefore, I ask, what has changed under the New Covenant so that the law and its punishment are now unjust?'' (What is Theonomy? The Forerunner) * ''Slaves have no economic incentive to work, since they cannot improve their situation regardless of how hard they labor. Therefore the master is allowed to provide that incentive by beating them.'' (404- Not Found) * ''Capital crimes against the family include rebellion to parents, homosexuality and adultery. Sound harsh? Then what you are saying, in effect, is that God is harsh and that treason against the family is "not as bad" as treason against the state.'' (What is Theonomy? The Forerunner) * ''Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent politically or militarily.'' (404- Not Found) * ''To observe the law in relationship to our neighbor, recognizing his right to life, home, property, and reputation, is to love him.'' (404- Not Found) * ''When men see how relevant the ten commandments are for economics, they should gain new respect for the importance of the laws of God.'' (404- Not Found) * ''In a theonomic society the civil government would promote virtues that it often works against today. It would reinstitute laws protecting the observance of the Sabbath.'' (404- Not Found) * ''The god of Judaism is the devil.'' (CHRISTIAN RECONSTRUCTIONISM, DOMINION THEOLOGY AND THEONOMY) * ''The means to lawful wealth is the covenant law, the law of God. Capitalization is thus a radical and total task. Man must seek to subdue the earth and gain wealth as a means of restitution and restoration, as means of establishing God’s dominion in every realm. Wherever godly men establish their superior productivity and gain wealth, they thereby glorify God. Wealth in itself is good, and a blessing of the Lord.'' (http://www.yuricareport.com/...utingCreepingDominionism.html) * ''Those who are obedient to His commands will rule the world, reconstructing it for His glory in terms of His laws. [...] The nation that will not serve us will perish (Isa. 60:12); all the peoples of the earth will be subdued under our feet (Ps. 47:1-3)--promises made originally to Israel, but now to be fulfilled in the New Israel, the Church.'' (404- Not Found) It sounds super.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4173 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Sounds super scary. Not exactly someone I want with his/her finger on the button....or in control of anything to be honest.
"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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I had never heard of Dominionism until right now. Can it get any worse?
I've known about the Christian Reconstructionist movement since the mid-1980's, after it was reported on in a three-part religion-and-government Bill Moyer special. Mainly, that special was looking at the rise of the Radical Religious Right in the early 80's. Here's the basic story as I recall that special telling it: Historically, fundamentalists would not involve themselves in politics; one analogy is that they viewed it was polishing the brass on a sinking ship. But then the presidential campaign of born-again Jimmy Carter started getting them involved -- I forget whether their votes helped to get him elected. But then Carter had that conference on the family that extended the definition of family to include many kinds of families that the fundamentalists did not approve of. Feeling betrayed, it was very easy for the Republicans to woo them over. In the meantime, the fundamentalist leaders started to learn politics from the Reconstructionists, even though they disagreed with them on theology. The Reconstructionists are post-millennialists, believing that Jesus will return at the end of the thousand years of Christian rule established by his followers, whereas fundamentalists are premillennialists, believing that Jesus will return at the beginning of those thousand years and will usher them in. The Reconstructionists have a more pro-active political plan for establishing an Old Testament Theocracy, which the fundamentalists adopted, but whereas the Reconstructionists' plan is multi-generational in which they will educate the people to the point where they will want such a government (and for this reason they are very much into the home-schooling movement), the fundamentalists wanted to establish that theocracy immediately and through the force of law by taking control of the government. Hence the fundamentalist plans were highly visible because of the political and legal battles they spawn, while the Reconstructionist plans continue on their long-term trajectories virtually unnoticed. In that special, Reconstructionists discussed their proposed theocracy that would reinstate Old Testatment laws. The prison problem would solved by only incarcerating criminals long enough to stand trial. After that, those convicted of capital crimes (of which there would be more) would be immediately executed and the rest would be sold into slavery, out of which a Christian could eventually earn his freedom back. What remained unsaid was what would happen to non-Christian slaves, that they were just plain SOL and could never regain their freedom? And also, wouldn't not being of the right religion be considered a crime under this system, thus automatically condemning entire sections of the population to a lifetime of slavery? And don't such "true Christians" also consider most other Christian denominations to not be Christian? I also found an article in Christianity Today circa 1987 about Christian Reconstructionism. It quoted reconstructionists as denouncing democracy, human rights, religious liberty, etc, as humanistic heresies; one even denounced them as inventions of Satan. In fact, I seem to recall the article title to be something like Democracy as Heresy. On a positive note, that completely refutes the Religious Right's nonsensical claim that our government was based on biblical principles. They've been at it for over 30 years now, resulting in the Republican Party having been taken over by religious ideologues and those who cater to them and in an increasingly polarized government and society. By their fruits you will know them.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
I was notified of this jewel, written by someone who used to be a Republican:
Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult I happily invoke Godwin's Law: In my mind, until the Republican Party has been reduced to nothing more than, perhaps, what the John Birch Society is today or, perhaps even the fictional Christopher Mott Society is, then we will continue to have Major Trouble in this land. Big Trouble. In fact the biggest trouble this nation has ever seen. Trouble! - and that starts with T which rhymes with P and that stands for Pool. If we could see Adolph Hitler & Joseph Stalin watching what the Republican Party is doing every minute of every day, we would see two big smiles, almost being able to read their minds: "They learn well, our children."- xongsmith, 5.7d
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
So, Bachmann's campaign manager and deputy manager have both quit.
In our continuing series on "Things Michele Bachmann doesn't know" ... this week she doesn't know that winning a straw poll (in which neither of the front runners bothered to participate) should not really be referred to as a "historic victory"; in the same way and for the same reason that a man with an inflatable sex doll should not refer to it as "my hot girlfriend".
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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Dr Adequate writes:
Are you insulting my hot girlfriend!?! in the same way and for the same reason that a man with an inflatable sex doll should not refer to it as "my hot girlfriend".Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
In today's semi-news, famous nonentity Tim "Who?" Pawlenty has endorsed Mitt Romney and joined his campaign team.
This is important because
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9199 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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quote: Fact Check: No evidence to suggest HPV vaccine causes 'mental retardation' Does she even understand what mental retardation is?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Does she even understand what mental retardation is?
Bill Maher was on Leno the other night, and he said (paraphrasing), "The best thing about Bachmann is that she is completely fact free." I couldn't agree more. If you are curious if something is right or wrong wait until Bachmann picks a side. That side is almost certain wrong.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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Theodoric writes:
Those kinds of phrases are great for lying. Does she even understand what mental retardation is?You can play on people's fears but cannot be held accountable. If pushed, you simply reply: "I am only saying what the people are thinking." "A man told me that his friend was mugged by Barack Obama. Look...I am just telling you what he said. People are scared to walk the streets! (Well, they will be when I've finished scaring them.)"Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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