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jar
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Message 4276 of 4310 (881251)
08-20-2020 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 4275 by AnswersInGenitals
08-20-2020 3:25 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Slight clarification. Ceding land owned by Americans back to Mexico without compensation to current owners or consideration or even adherence to existing laws.

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Message 4277 of 4310 (881257)
08-20-2020 4:44 PM
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08-20-2020 3:44 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
At least some of which is a local golf course owned by somebody else -- hence a competitor -- and which was to be split in half by the Wall. Basically, no competitor is too small for Trump to abuse the power of his office to eliminate.

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Message 4278 of 4310 (881282)
08-21-2020 1:02 PM
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08-20-2020 3:25 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
AnswersInCanada writes:

... Trump's plan is to build the wall on the US side of the river, effectively ceding several square miles of US territory to Mexico.


See? He LOOOOOOOVES Mexico. He wants to make reparations for the land that was stolen after the Mexican War.

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Message 4279 of 4310 (881284)
08-21-2020 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 4275 by AnswersInGenitals
08-20-2020 3:25 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
It's actually worse then that. While the official border goes down the center of the Rio Grande, Trump's plan is to build the wall on the US side of the river, effectively ceding several square miles of US territory to Mexico

If that's the case, then I fully endorse using gators instead. Maybe we can go all Dr. Evil and fit them with lasers!


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Message 4280 of 4310 (881286)
08-21-2020 1:57 PM
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08-21-2020 1:02 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
He wants to make reparations for the land that was stolen after the Mexican War.

Judging from the keen sense of history that he repeatedly demonstrates, I'm sure that Trump doesn't even know that that war had ever happened (along with the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor) -- though I suspect that most Americans also don't know about it. I wanted to suggest that Trump confuses that with the Zoot Suit Riots (Los Angeles, June 1943 -- it was white servicemen and Angelenos who violently attacked the pachucos, so of course the pachucos were the ones arrested). But I'm sure that he doesn't know about that either.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear Trump say that Mexico used to be US territory before the Mexicans moved in and stole it from us.


"That guy's brain is a bag full of cats. You can smell crazy on him."
(Bruce Banner)


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Message 4281 of 4310 (881291)
08-21-2020 3:35 PM
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08-21-2020 1:02 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Hi Ringo,
I see you've modified the last part of my name from "Genitals" to "Canada". Are you implying that your fellow Canadians are a bunch of Dicks or a bunch of Pussies? I've spent many a delightful and memorable times in all provinces of Canada, including rafting down the Yukon River form White Horse to Dawson City and spending summers at a camp in Algonquin Park and always found you Canadians to be *****.

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Message 4282 of 4310 (881331)
08-22-2020 12:11 PM
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08-21-2020 3:35 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
AnswersSomwhere writes:

I see you've modified the last part of my name from "Genitals" to "Canada".


Freudian slip. I wish I had thought of it though.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 4283 of 4310 (881347)
08-22-2020 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 4278 by ringo
08-21-2020 1:02 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Surely you dont expect your precious Socialism and human altruism to extend to every single person on the planet. We all would be broke as a joke and inevitably a tyrant would emerge to run the whole show. Unless you have faith that humans can be honorable and good if only they would try it. (No God Needed)

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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jar
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Message 4284 of 4310 (881348)
08-22-2020 3:58 PM
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08-22-2020 3:55 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Phat writes:

Surely you dont expect your precious Socialism and human altruism to extend to every single person on the planet. We all would be broke as a joke and inevitably a tyrant would emerge to run the whole show. Unless you have faith that humans can be honorable and good if only they would try it. (No God Needed)

Only humans can do it Phat, no God has EVER been able to do squat.


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Message 4285 of 4310 (881351)
08-22-2020 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 4284 by jar
08-22-2020 3:58 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
jar writes:

no God has EVER been able to do squat.

Including convincing you to believe in them.
You chose logic, reason, reality and evidence and continue to mock any reasoned argumentation.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Message 4286 of 4310 (881354)
08-22-2020 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 4285 by Phat
08-22-2020 4:03 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Phat writes:

You chose logic, reason, reality and evidence and continue to mock any reasoned argumentation.

First you need to present a reasoned argument Phat.


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Message 4287 of 4310 (881355)
08-22-2020 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 4285 by Phat
08-22-2020 4:03 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Phat writes:

You chose logic, reason, reality and evidence and continue to mock any reasoned argumentation.

First you need to present a reasoned argument Phat. And once again, fall back on misrepresentation. I am a believer Phat, just no a believer in the pitiful little godlets that you and the Apologists create and market.


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Message 4288 of 4310 (881393)
08-23-2020 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 4283 by Phat
08-22-2020 3:55 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Phat writes:

Surely you dont expect your precious Socialism and human altruism to extend to every single person on the planet.


Well, it's the only altruism we've got.

Phat writes:

We all would be broke as a joke...


Non sequitur.

Phat writes:

... and inevitably a tyrant would emerge to run the whole show.


Well, maybe so, but that's the problem, not the solution.

Phat writes:

Unless you have faith that humans can be honorable and good if only they would try it.


We both know they can so I don't know why you would even question it. Humans invented honor and goodness.

Phat writes:

(No God Needed)


Far from "needed". All of the gods have done far more harm than good.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 4289 of 4310 (881696)
08-27-2020 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 4288 by ringo
08-23-2020 10:18 AM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
ringo writes:

Humans invented honor and goodness.


Luke 18:18-23 writes:

Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"

19 So Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. 20 You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery,' 'Do not murder,' 'Do not steal,' 'Do not bear false witness,' 'Honor your father and your mother.'"

21 And he said, "All these things I have kept from my youth."

22 So when Jesus heard these things, He said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

23 But

Granted, this scripture not only supports the idea that humans do not have a corner on the market for goodness, but that humans who lack awareness would do well to sell all that they have. This scripture scares me, even though it proves my point that humans did not originate goodness. (Unless you argue that humans wrote the story and God had nothing to do with it, which sounds like something your evidence based thinking would try. )

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Message 4290 of 4310 (881697)
08-27-2020 3:35 PM
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08-27-2020 3:28 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Humans did write the story, Phat.
There is no evidence that any god has ever existed other than in human minds.

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