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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
New Cat's Eye
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Message 547 of 2073 (741657)
11-13-2014 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 535 by Faith
11-13-2014 1:24 PM


Re: Coyotes call
What I said was that they all believe "it," meaning God's word, that's what they are saying.
But the same amount of people believed that the Earth was flat and that the sun revolved around it.
Appeals to Population are fallacious because the number of people believing it doesn't make it right.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 648 of 2073 (742637)
11-22-2014 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 632 by Colbard
11-22-2014 6:47 AM


Re: Belief in science
You could teach whatever you want but you would not be allowed to test anyone on it, or fail them because it may all be proven false in the future.
I took a course on human evolution in college. On the first day the Professor said that they understood that this may be a controversial topic for some students and that you didn't have to believe a word that they were teaching you. What you would be tested on is your ability to explain the current scientific understandings of human evolution.
So, the understandings don't even have to be right for you to be tested on them.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 651 of 2073 (742645)
11-22-2014 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 650 by Coyote
11-22-2014 2:43 PM


Great idea! Playing with the casts was one of my favorite parts of the course!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 654 of 2073 (742671)
11-22-2014 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 652 by NAME OF THE ROSE
11-22-2014 8:47 PM


Re: Belief in science
Evolution is clearly a scientific fact, it is also clearly a scientific fact that evolution can not happen without DNA to mutate and or combine DNA of both parent organisms, in order for evolution to happen.
I'm with ya.
Evolutionary theory does not explain where DNA came from, it can not.
Actually, the principles in the Theory of Evolution can be applied to pre-DNA molecules and offer some explanation. For example, the RNA world hypothesis:
involves random mutation and natural selection acting on RNA before DNA ever exists.
The key component to evolution that you need is imperfect replication, not necessarily actual DNA.
Now that said evolution is a wonderful thing as it allows the human race to, for instance produce better food crops, corn being one. If you could invent an organism or life process, that would adapt itself to changing conditions, and thereby improve itself over time, would you not do this?
Hypothetically speaking, you might worry that it would evolve past you. Kinda like how we're accidentally driving the evolution of more dangerous antibiotic-resistant bacteria.
Sure you would, as this would free your time to do even more inventing, why must evolution and ID be totally separate?Why can evolution by DNA code changes, not be an engineered process?
It can/could definately be an engineered process. But ID makes no attempt to explain that.
If you have the answer, you are a fool
Oh
because at the moment, this answer is beyond the knowledge curve of the human race, yet so many know for sure what is true......! The only thing that you can truly be sure of, is that 99.9999 percent of all knowable knowledge, is unknown.
The question you seem to be asking, as opposed to "why not ID*", is why can't evolution be considered to be planned, like by God or something. The answer to that is that it can. Theistic Evolution is a thing.
*ID is a specific anti-evolution movement, not a general God-accepting approach to the question

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 679 of 2073 (742934)
11-25-2014 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 670 by Colbard
11-25-2014 7:40 AM


Re: Belief in science
I was not talking about this forum, which is about .01 % of my day.
0.01% of 24 hours is 8.64 seconds.
Your profile shows that you post an average of 2.4 messages per day.
That's an average of 3.6 seconds per message. No wonder they're such shit.
Edited by Cat Sci, : added smiley

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 813 of 2073 (744278)
12-09-2014 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 812 by Dr Adequate
12-09-2014 2:19 PM


Re: Are You A Troll?
He kinda admitted to trolling in Message 800:
quote:
So if and when people are not prepared to listen, give them what they want to engage in, -useless arguments.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 823 of 2073 (744363)
12-10-2014 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 817 by dwise1
12-10-2014 12:18 AM


Re: Are You A Troll?
What hypocrisy!
Pssh. You give them too much credit.
They're just backpedaling and playing clean up. They didn't really foresee the replies that they were going to get.
They didn't actually set up that slow pitch for us to knock out of the park, they really did think they knew how to pitch a ball.
They were not ready for the big leagues, and now they're trying to act like it was all a big set-up.
Don't fall for that crap.

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