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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: He spends most of his time trying to keep his campaign promises and thinking about that sort of thing so he isn't tuned in enough to where the attacks are coming from. Really??? Trump promised that he would pass laws that would put everyone on health insurance. However, the Republican bill he backed would have left millions of Americans without health insurance. When has he ever attempted to pass legislation that would give every American affordable health insurance? Can you name the bill?
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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917 of them as of now. STATEMENT BY FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTORS. There's an updated CSV there.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Faith writes: Yes I believe he's honest, not clearheaded about a lot of things but honest, not articulate at times when he needs to be but honest. What scares me is that he is just wrong on so many things, very basic things that any president should know. For example, who pays the tariffs on goods that come into the US? Trump seemed to think that the Chinese pay these tariffs to the US Treasury instead of US importers. How did he not know that Americans pay those tariffs? Either he is too ignorant to be president, or he was lying. Either way, it's not a good look.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Dupe.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
When has he ever attempted to pass legislation that would give every American affordable health insurance? Can you name the bill? Well, he did get Mexico to pay for the...oh wait. If Trump took a red hot poker to Faith's eyes she would swear he was curing her macular degeneration.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm not talking about his personal habits. I think Clinton outdid him anyway.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If there were "all the elements for an obstruction charge," Mueller would have brought that charge, that was the whole point of his investigation, to bring charges where he found it justified. Had the points you name qualified, Mueller would have brought the charges. He didn't. He had no other job than that and since he didn't do it there was clearly no obstruction of justice according to his investigation.
Oh and by the way the fact that a sitting President cannot be indicted NEVER EVER entered into any of the report's considerations, which was said very clearly by at least Mueller I think. It would at least have been mentioned in that gossip sheet called volume2. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Mueller's report DID exonerate Trump, of both "collusion" and obstruction of justice. Because that was the only point of such a report, to bring charges where cause was found. Cause was not found, that's the same as saying the report exonerated him.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
By happy coincidence, I just downloaded the latest issue of The New York Review of Books. First article:
An Indictment in All But Nameby David Cole. Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s long-awaited report, released to the public in a redacted version on April 18, lays out in meticulous detail both a blatantly illegal effort by Russia to throw the 2016 presidential election to Donald Trump and repeated efforts by President Trump to end, limit, or impede Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference. Trump’s efforts included firing or attempting to fire those overseeing the investigation, directing subordinates to lie on his behalf, cajoling witnesses not to cooperate, and doctoring a public statement about a Trump Tower meeting between his son and closest advisers and a Russian lawyer offering compromising information on Hillary Clinton. Hell hath no fury like a white man scorned. If you take nothing else from the Senate's confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh, take that much. -- Kai Wright
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
so he can be a dishonest personal person and an honest president? What do you call lying to troops about their pay? is that the act of a dishonest person or an honest president?
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Mueller's report DID exonerate Trump, of both "collusion" and obstruction of justice.
False. The report specifically states that the president could not be exonerated of the obstruction of justice charges. That quote was even in Barr's summary of the report.
While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him. edited to add the quote Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The report had no authority whatever to "exonerate" anyone so stating that it didn't do so is just manipulative puff. All such an investigation can do is find that there is cause for criminal charges. That's ALL it can do and it found no such cause. Again, if Mueller had found such a cause HE WOULD HAVE BROUGHT CHARGES. Again, even the mention of exoneration is just the usual fakery to keep something going that in reality is dead, anything to keep up the fiction that Trump is at fault despite the finding that he was not at fault.
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Taq Member Posts: 10085 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: The report had no authority whatever to "exonerate" anyone . . .
That's not what you said before: "Mueller's report DID exonerate Trump, of both "collusion" and obstruction of justice. "--Faith Care to explain?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There is no such thing as news any more, it's all made up gossip. Fake News. "Indictment in all but name?" Oh nonsense. If there had been anything to charge Trump with he would have been charged. Sheesh.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The facts of the report exonerate him. The report has no such authority but since it didn't charge him with a crime he is exonerated.
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