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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Theodoric writes:
Denial won’t help you. Christianity brought peace and civility to a multitude of warring, barbaric tribes that were - for example: headhunter/cannibal tribes in the South Pacific, the Vikings in Scandinavia, the Vandals in Germany . and I haven’t even mentioned Africa, the Asian sub-continent, Australian and South America yet. There was no christian “peace effect”. “Fifty years later, ”Peace Child’ tribe still following Christ” Fifty years later, 'Peace Child' tribe still following Christ - Mission Network News ”Historically, the Marind-anim in New Guinea were famed because of their headhunting.[7] The practice was rooted in their belief system and linked to the name-giving of the newborn.[8] The skull was believed to contain a mana-like force.[9] Headhunting was not motivated primarily by cannibalism, but the dead person's flesh was consumed in ceremonies following the capture and killing. The Korowai, a Papuan tribe in the southeast of Irian Jaya, live in tree houses, some nearly 40 metres high. This is believed to be a defensive practice, presumably as protection against the Citak, a tribe of neighbouring headhunters.” Wikipedia, “Headhunting”. Try reading “How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization” by Dr. Thomas Woods.
Examples please
Positives of British rule of IndiaWhat are the good things done by the British to India and Indians during the British Raj? Such as social reforms, science and technology, infrastructure, and human resources development? - Quora Are you familiar with Monty Python’s famous “What have the Romans ever done for us?” scene from their film, The Life of Brian?montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Life_of_Brian/10.htm Explains the luck of Europe in that time period.
It had nothing to do with “luck”. God’s use of colonization to spread the gospel started thousands of years ago, beginning when Constantine became a Catholic, who then used the Roman Empire to spead the gospel and expand the Church.
The death of the colonial era was not brought about by communism.
Many (probably most) anti-colonial, anti-white struggles were strongly linked to or influenced by Communism/Marxism. Nelson Mandela, for example, was a card-carrying Communist who was involved in violence actions against the SA colonialist government. His political party, the ANC, is an amalgam of three parties, one of them being the South African Communist Party. One of your revered saints, Che Guevara, spent time in Angola (along with other Communist Cubans sent by Fidel Castro) helping black Communists there violently overthrown the colonial government. The war of independence fought in Zimbabwe was waged by Communist-backed rebels against the Colonial government (incidentally, when Zimbabwe was controlled by the Christian White Colonialists, it was a very stable and wealthy country known as the “bread basket of Africa”, as its very productive farms helped feed other African nations. Since the Whites were overthrown by the black Communists, Zimbabwe has descended into a third-world basket-case of corruption, violence, authoritarianism, poverty and even famine). African Communists were supported and funded by white Communists and Marxists from other parts of the world, who also initiated the anti-Apartheid movement in South Africa. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined:
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ringo writes:
Excellent. Now explain how one can “walk humbly with thy God” if one doesn’t believe in God? Then explain what this means: quote:Micah 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? The will of your Father is for you to do justly, love mercy and walk humbly with your God. ”without faith it is impossible to please him. For whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists” (Hebrews 11:6). The ones who inherit the kingdom - i.e. the real believers - are the ones who feed the hungry, etc. not the ones who only profess belief.
It is the will of God that people believe in Him and obey His commandments:“Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war with the offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus (Rev 12:17). ”Here is call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus” (Rev 14:12). Doing good works is part of keeping “the commandments of God” - “faith without works is dead . a man is justified by works and not faith alone” (James 2:17-24). However, this is a different argument to the one you started with in message 659, which was that Christianity is “about what you do, not what you believe or what you profess.” (Incidentally, you may well be the only person in history who has ever proposed such a ridiculous, easily-refuted theological argument. Congratulations.)
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
His employer reflects the zeitgeist of Western civilization, which is cultural Marxism, and all the degenerate madness that goes with it.
Israel Folau had his say. His employer, who has the same right of free speech, had theirs.No government force involved. No violation of free speech. No violation of free speech? Hiarious! "When the devil comes along preaching in the name of equality, who can oppose him?"
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
GDR writes:
A fine example of a fake Christian. He carries a "mark of the beast" - support of "gay" rights and the hideous scandal of same-sex "marriage".
Desmond Tutu.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Hyroglyphx writes:
You support “gay” rights, which makes you a cultural Marxist. In other words, you worship the Great False god of Equality. Btw, there is no equality between heterosexuality and bestiality.
Yes, I think gay people should be treated equally.
Never once voted for a Democrat ever in my life... I'm 42 years old.
Voting for Bernie Sanders is even worse than voting for the Democrats. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
I know, but thanks anyway.
You are pretty embarrassing yourself.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Hyproglyphx writes:
I wasn’t referring to government intrusion; I was referring to the anti-free-speech norms of political correctness that prevail on most online forum sites.
You and I may disagree with the content on a personal level, as I think I've been very quick to point out with Dredge, but if he is too afraid to speak his mind on account of government intrusion, espousing racist ideology
How do you define “racist ideology”?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
In professional cyclist there’s a German (white) sprinter nicknamed “Gorilla”, on account of his powerful physique. No one bats an eyelid. But if someone called a negro, “Gorilla”, suddenly that’s a “hate crime” that will land you in court.
The term “white trash” is often used to refer to white people of low socio-economic standing. No one bats an eyelid. However, if anyone publicly referred to poor negroes as “black trash”, all hell would break loose and the offender would find himself in court charged with a “hate crime”.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
DrJones writes:
Tell that to all those atheists out there who believe humans descended from bacteria via a natural process of Darwinian evolution.
there is no darwinist belief system
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
GDR writes:
Which fake, wannabe church do you belong to? Not the same one as that imposter, Desmond Tutu, I hope. Dredge writes:
This is simply another false idol that Jesus also spoke out strongly against. This is what happens to those who worship and make a false idol out of their church
Catholic can't believe what they like - they must accept all the doctrines and dogmas of the Church. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Stile writes:
Here’s how it works: Untrue.You don't get to say what I want or don't want. I do. And I do, actually, want God to exist. I think it would be great if the weak were protected, if (good) prayers were answered, if some benevolent, all-powerful being could provide a sense of security and peace. It's just that such things have been tested, and they've been identified to be equivalent to "nothing is there." If you want to believe in (a) God, you’ll find a way. If you don’t want to believe in (a) God, you’ll find a way.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
Sorry, that one went clear over my head. What are you talking about?
Right. You just pass judgement condemning to hell the whole of the human race all at once and before we're even born.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
GDR writes:
Is this the same Jesus who likened certain people to “dogs” and “swine”; called some of his enemies a “ brood of vipers” and “blind fools”; and said to other enemies, “You are of your father the devil”?
This is the kind of hate mongering that Jesus spoke out so strongly against . It is totally incompatible with Jesus’ commandment to love one’s enemies.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
So does this quaint and romantic but unscientific idea of “equality” apply to E. coli, lions, slugs and geese too? Or is it just amongst human organisms that you imagine it exists?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Hyroglyphx writes:
In that case, we’ll have to add “survival of the equal-est” to “survival of the fittest” in evolutionary theory. If your belief about Darwinian evolution is one where only "might makes right" or where ruthlessness is the only virtue lauded by nature, then you'd be misguided. Cooperation amongst humans and equitable societies could also be explained by evolutionary theory. Furthermore, you seem to think that the survival of humans is important, whereas according to your Darwinist belief-system, humans are no more important than any other species . and species and species come and go, according to the whims of Mother Nature. According to evolutionary science, the world doesn’t need humans (in fact, the planet might actually be healthier without them).
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