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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
From the Census bureau FAQ
Are undocumented residents (aliens) in the 50 states included in the apportionment population counts?Yes, all people (citizens and noncitizens) with a usual residence in the 50 states are to be included in the census and thus in the apportionment counts. Are children under 18 years old included in the apportionment population counts since they cannot vote?Yes, being registered to vote or voting is not a requirement for inclusion in the apportionment counts. U.S. Census Bureau: Page not found So the blue states, such as California, New York and New Jersey jack up their clout in the electoral college with people who can't vote. Sounds very ante-bellum South!
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
CA NY and NJ are the top three in percent foreign born. Texas is #7. I was thinking of the ante-bellum South that counted "all other persons" and jacked up their representation, despite the fact that those "persons" weren't allowed to vote. History repeats itself as tragedy, then as farce...
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
You must realize that having a sub-population that cannot vote could be a catalyst for social problems? It's almost as if the US had invaded Mexico and taken Sonora as a colony, restricting the voting rights of the inhabitants there who were descended from immigrants from Spain.
Consider as well the issue of a sub-population disenfranchised because of previous criminal records. Or the issue of "territories" and "possessions"
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
The blue states would lose more than the red states, since their population counts include non-voting aliens (both legal and illegal). For example, CA NY and NJ are the top three in percent foreign born. Texas is only number 7.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
It is, admittedly, not a perfect analogy.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
It makes for some weird imbalances.
From 2018: quote: And going the other way: quote:
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
I quite agree that citizens should be able to vote even if they aren't in their district on voting day.
I didn't say anything about the constitutional requirement that the US census must count all persons.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Then you can surely see the problems of the current situation in places like California where some inhabitants are subject to the law but do not have the privilege of choosing the lawmakers and may, in fact, owe allegiance to a neighboring nation.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined:
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That, of course is the ideal, a border like that between France and Germany or between Spain and Portugal. Perhaps someday the entire North American continent can be united as a single polity.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
My first post was a quote from the Census Bureau FAQ, not a discussion of the Constitutional requirements.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Just thought I'd put in some actual facts.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 625 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
I apologize for my shortcomings.
Have a nice day.
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