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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
For the "experts" in "science", prove the theory of human evolution. Of course you can come up with pages and pages of myths explaining how 2+2 is 4, but basically show me the common ancestor, show me the progression between them, and how we got to what we look like today. By the way, missing genetic material. For example how the human chromosome 2 is the result of a telomere-to-telomere fusion of two ancestral chromosomes. Explain how that happened. Er ... that is an explanation of what happened. The thing to be explained is that the human chromosome 2 looks like the result of a telomere-to-telomere fusion of two ancestral chromosomes. The explanation of how that happened is that the human chromosome 2 is the result of a telomere-to-telomere fusion of two ancestral chromosomes.
far as I know if I walk in the middle of a sunny day for about an hour under the sun, my skin gets literally fried. Adaptation? a process of mutiple mutations to adapt to the environment producing evolution? our, or better said your "cousins" have hair on their bodies for that purpose. Specially more on their backs. well, we have some hair too but wait a second. More hair on out chest?? 2+2.... Debate is best not conducted in the literary form known as stream-of-consciousness.
The theory of human evolution is a successful and simple way to keep control on our society. Just like any religion, the "scientific" community is very well established with a system of "belief". Those young geeks who join the "scientific" community are brainwashed to believe with their eyes closed. Like horses following that path. You can tell them to go through that wall, and they will smash and smash their heads until they go through the wall without realizing that you could go around the wall. Somebody told him before he could walk around the wall but that was not valid because "it was not proven", "it was myth" then once the sheep looked back and studied what happened, came to the brilliant conclusion that through a scientific process we have proven that it was possible to walk around the wall to cross it. The theory of human evolution is far beyond more fantastic than any Hollywood science fiction movie we have ever created. I note that your paranoid delusions are not supported by any evidence. This makes them different from the theory of evolution. --- I should note that the topic of this thread is "Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?" and not "Can you give us your best shot at a Gish Gallop?"
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
In nature that does not happen. You should stop making genetics up as you go along, you'll be wrong less often. In nature it does happen. That's why you get the occasional person with 44 chromosomes. There's a reason why the experts are called experts. It's because they have learned stuff by studying, instead of making stuff up in their heads like you.
Changes in evolution due to sexual selection would take hundreds of thousands of years. If successfully forced, will create a species non adapted to the planet that ultimately would go into extinction. Natural selection. Well, in our case natural selection doesn't work which contradicts evolution. The fact that our defective genes are passed on n the genetic pool defies the behavior of evolution. Unless, we were forced to exist to begin with. Now, what did I tell you about not employing the stream-of-consciousness genre? If you can't think of a coherent argument against evolution ... you might just be a creationist. --- You are still off-topic.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
In what other creature does that happen? Per the article: "And yet it happens all the time in creatures as varied as yeast, corn, butterflies, voles and even mice."
Also can that person with 44 chromosomes survive out in the wild and procreate? Per the article: "Except for his different number of chromosomes, this man is perfectly normal in every measurable way."
Even we have a hard time surviving. Speak for yourself.
A chimp can pull the head of a human right off the shoulders. Our strength is not even close to that. Oh wait! didn't we evolve from primates? Have you noticed how there are over 7,000,000,000 humans and only (at an upper estimate) 300,000 chimpanzees? --- You are still off-topic. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Was that article written by your God? Yes there are less chimps because there's something called natural selection. Ah, more incoherent non sequiturs.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
By the way, evolution of humans should be just mentioned in schools as a theory. it is ridiculous and disrespectful for the whole specie, but since there's a bunch of making a living out of it, it should be just mentioned to kids. Importance to facts should be given as priority in education. Has it occurred to you that maybe scientists, who know about science, are better equipped to decide which bits of science are important than people like you, who aren't scientists and who are pig-ignorant of science?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Well, I was wondering. You wrote:
In nature that does not happen. Now, this is, as I have shown, not true. And at that point, you should have paused for thought. Specifically, you should have thought: "Hey, I'm making up crap about a subject of which I know nothing, and asserting it as a fact". And you should have thought: "Oh dear, that pretty much makes me a big fat liar". And you should have thought: "Maybe I should stop talking about genetics until I know the first damn thing about it". Apparently you didn't think any of those things. But this would be an excellent time to start thinking them.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
That is exactly the process used by your experts to brainwash you and make you a "believer" to lower your self esteem, or perhaps keep it down where it was to begin with, and give you an exit to a life of depression through a world of science fiction and make you call yourself a "scientist" When it comes to the theory of human evolution, unfortunately we are wasting money throwing it to the garbage supporting this clowns. These same clowns have been scratching their heads for years trying to come up with the perfect fantasy about our origins. And they get paid for it. I would say, since they don't have anything else to do with their lives, let's mention the theory just to justify their jobs. But from an educational point of view, it is senseless and ridiculous to teach our origins out of a "theory" it is a joke. So ridiculous and stupid, that kids think at it as fact. Is part of our culture and society to "believe" that we evolve from monkeys. That is the level of stupidity and ignorance in the majority of the population. For how long Dinosaurs were on earth? what they accomplished thanks to evolution? This random collection of words is not an answer to my post. Let me make the point again. What you stated definitively as a fact is known to be 100% wrong. Does that not lead you to question your expertise concerning a subject which you have obviously never bothered to study? Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Thank you for your generous assessment. However,m in your own blindness of your religion, You have no clue what I'm talking about. And I'm gonna point one detail to you. In that picture of monkey heads, explain me WHY IN THE WORLD, ALL the heads except the last 2, are tilted forward??? uh? Who are you trying to fool with that cheap trick. Do you really think the majority of the people is that stupid? Why the last one (Sapiens) is perfectly resting in an horizontal position, while ALL the previous ones are tilted forward. Look at the jaw bone line. Look at the back of the head. Well, here's the reason why: Because if you let them rest in its natural position, THEY DONT LOOK AT ALL LIKE US. That is the reason why, and these clowns know it. But somehow they have to find a cheap way to justify their jobs, and satisfy the demand of those on top to brainwash people. Those ugly monkeys in the pictures barely have a forehead. They HAVE to tilt them forward to make them look somewhat a little similar to an homo sapiens and create an optical illusion of a transition. The last 2 creatures are similar, while all the previous ones are different. It is unbelievable the level of desperation these people reach to try to make that stupid theory work. Even an idiot can see it! Indeed, being an idiot would seem to be the essential qualification. Anyone else would be able to see that skull N would look more like the previous skulls if it was displayed at the same angle as them.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
For the benefit of anyone too freakin' stupid to figure out what the picture would look like if you rotated skull N 15 degrees clockwise, here is the picture with skull N rotated 15 degrees clockwise.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Pride is an emotion that would be the subject of study on a different thread. To be honest, I do not consider myself offensive. However, I do put an effort in exposing stupidity and arrogance through a process of logic and reason that is undeniable. And one of the reasons for that effort is that we live under a system of "belief" Either religion or science. In the case of science, we are forced conventionally to "believe" what "experts" say when in reality is all speculations. Day by day they are re-writing what they know because they keep discovering new things. It is an infantile behavior in which thy start from the base that they are the maximum expression of evolution in the universe. They know everything. Nobody before them could know more than them, and nobody in any part of the universe can know more than they do. Therefore, every time they discover something new, it has to be rewritten. Nobody can criticize that behavior because we all "believe" they have the supreme truth and the last word. In reality they are a bunch of retards, nerds and geeks who deduce some sort of sexual pleasure mating monkeys with humans. Is this intended to be an example of "logic and reason that is undeniable"? Only it looks like a pitiable confection of lies, gibberish, and self-serving fantasy.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
The Theory of Evolution. A Theory is an educated guess and Evolution is a term of observation, "we watched the play evolve." We don't know the plot so we make an educated guess about what is happening. So the T of E is"the guessing of guessing" No. Really, you shouldn't involve yourself in this discussion if you don't even know the meaning of the terms.
So the T of E is "Not knowing what is not known" Where should we begin in such a study? Looking up the terms "theory" and "evolution" and finding out that neither of them is a synonym for "guessing" would be an excellent first step.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
In other words "if you want to pass school you'll have to guess the way we guess, and not do your own guessing." That is not in fact the same thing in other words. You seem to have a real problem with finding out the meaning of words. This may kinda disqualify you from discussing things on internet forums, because people on forums use words quite a lot. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I made a comment on the basic English meaning of those words ... No, you made shit up. There is no "basic English meaning" under which "evolution" is a synonym for "guessing". No-one ever said "I'm evolution you're a Pisces", or "The fossil record tells us a lot about the guessing of mammals".
I know the scientific terms and how they are used. And it is no excuse to say that you knew you were making shit up.
In school we use the terms in their basic form first In school we are taught the proper meaning of scientific terms, rather than being taught that scientific vocabulary should be subordinated to vulgar errors.
But you all got busy with straightening me out, and labeling me to a lower category, in which case you would not be suitable to comment on what should go on in schools. Right? Well, that was gibberish.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Your red faced vein popping speeches does the evolution cult justice. Are you sure you are not religiously in love with this thing called evolution? You know - the dogma that tells you that you are nothing but swill in pond of bacteria? And that every time you eat a chicken burger you have an underdeveloped human being in between two slices of bread? Once again I would suggest that you find out what evolution is. Otherwise you will look ignorant and delusional. Or dishonest. Or just really really stupid.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I take it that you are a vegetarian now? I thought your phase of florid screaming twitching lunacy was more amusing than your current descent into surreal non sequitur. But don't get me wrong, it's not bad. It's just not the absolute grade-A crazy of your previous posts.
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