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Topic: Gun Control Again
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 3331 of 5179 (750924)
02-24-2015 11:09 AM
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Reply to: Message 3327 by NoNukes
02-23-2015 1:58 PM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
NoNukes writes: A sane definition of readily accessible would include loaded with a functioning safety such as a grip safety. Or with a biometric detection system.
No, that would be a definition of "safe". Accessible and safe are two different things, which is the point of the thread.
NoNukes writes: Or without a bullet in the chamber.
Depending on the weapon, that would be a definition of "useless".
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 3338 of 5179 (751315)
03-02-2015 10:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 3337 by NoNukes
02-24-2015 10:04 PM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
NoNukes writes: Unless you are insane.
I keep telling you, they are.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Slovene Home Guard
petrophysics1 writes: Why don't you explain to us the great benefits of allowing the government to round up people, put them in camps, and then in ovens.
So you're advocating armed resistance against your own government?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Even the NRA Thinks Guns Are Too Dangerous for an NRA Convention
Cat's Eye writes: They're probably worried about some crazy left-wing commie grabbing a gun and shooting up the place just to make them look bad.
Nah, we'd probably just poke them with a flower.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Even the NRA Thinks Guns Are Too Dangerous for an NRA Convention
Cat's Eye writes: I don't think what you'd actually do changes what the NRA thinks you would do.
Nothing will change what the NRA thinks.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 3396 of 5179 (758160)
05-20-2015 4:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 3394 by ramoss
05-20-2015 7:40 AM
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Re: Biker Fight
ramoss writes: They had reoccurring biker nights to attract their business, and were warned by the police that is not a good idea.
Our local bikers hang out at Tim Hortons. One night they foiled a robbery at the gas station next door.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 3398 of 5179 (758188)
05-21-2015 11:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 3397 by AZPaul3
05-20-2015 8:37 PM
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Re: Biker Fight
AZPaul3 writes: I can imagine it went something like this....
Actually, it went more like this: One of the bikers, with arms and legs as thick as tree-trunks, sauntered across the street and said, "I'm sorry. You must desist. This is not the Canadian way." The perpetrator looked up, said, "Oh. I'm sorry," dropping his bent pin in a trash bin as he walked away. When the Mounties arrived on horseback singing I AM Canadian the bikers joined in, in harmony, and bought a round of Tim Hortons double-doubles and maple-dip doughnuts. Then they all sang a few stanzas from The Lumberjack Song as the Mounties rode off into the snow drifts.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 3420 of 5179 (759595)
06-13-2015 11:55 AM
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Reply to: Message 3416 by Jon
06-13-2015 9:17 AM
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
Jon writes: Do we arrest the brewmaster for your drunk driving?
We can charge the bartender.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
mikechell writes: Stay the hell out of our business and we'll stay out of yours.
If you act like idiots, we're going to point it out. 
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 3452 of 5179 (759696)
06-14-2015 2:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 3422 by Jon
06-13-2015 1:53 PM
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
Jon writes: ringo writes: We can charge the bartender.
And?
And that means that we don't place the whole responsibility on the drunk. A bartender can reasonably conclude that a patron has had enough and we do hold him responsible to some extent for the patron's actions if he continues to serve alcohol to the patron. Maybe we don't extend that responsibility to the brewmaster or the truck driver but the fact is that we, as a society, do recognize that the responsibility does extend beyond the individual.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
mikechell writes: What you will never hear, because our news agencies (and yours) tend to shy away from good news, is the number of crimes that are prevented by gun owners.
Your conspiracy theory has already been addressed but it doesn't make a bit of difference anyway. If ANY child is killed by a gun that his parents bought to "protect" him, there's something wrong. Handwaving the deaths that DO happen is disgraceful.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 3457 of 5179 (759705)
06-14-2015 3:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 3456 by Jon
06-14-2015 2:39 PM
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
Jon writes: Much like if he is killed in a car that his parents bought to drive him to boy scouts?
No, not much like that. A car DOES take you to boy scouts while a gun DOES NOT protect you. A car is an effective and useful tool. A gun (when purchased for protection) is not. A better analogy would be if a child was killed by a boa constrictor that his parents bought him because it was cute and cuddly.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 3490 of 5179 (759807)
06-15-2015 11:50 AM
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Reply to: Message 3455 by Jon
06-14-2015 2:38 PM
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
Jon writes: The bartender's responsibility is the same as the responsibility of someone who tries to enforce a contract signed by someone clearly intoxicated...
Correct.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 3491 of 5179 (759808)
06-15-2015 11:53 AM
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Reply to: Message 3458 by Jon
06-14-2015 4:01 PM
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
Jon writes: Nobody who buys a gun for protection thinks it will end up killing their own child.
Exactly. Nobody who fires a shotgun out the window thinks he'll hit anybody. When people don't think about the consequences of their actions, society needs to protect itself from their stupidity.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
mikechell writes: But they proven, again and again, that they would rather over-regulate than under-regulate.
In the US, guns are clearly under-regulated.
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