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Message 3282 of 5179 (749141)
02-02-2015 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 3281 by NoNukes
02-02-2015 12:42 PM


Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
What if the three year old saw a burglar? Or a child molester?
Or a boogie man or a ghost or anything scary a 3 year old sees. Do you really like that argument? That a three year old has the mental capabilities to make a decision to shoot some one? Wow! I thought the NRA were a bunch of nutballs, but this has got to be the strangest pro-gun argument I have ever heard.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3285 of 5179 (749146)
02-02-2015 1:36 PM
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02-02-2015 1:17 PM


Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
Damn, Poe'd again.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3295 of 5179 (749295)
02-03-2015 3:43 PM
Reply to: Message 3294 by NoNukes
02-03-2015 3:22 PM


Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
Yes

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3333 of 5179 (750928)
02-24-2015 11:42 AM
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02-24-2015 11:36 AM


Re: readily available vs negligently ready
Because it takes all of 1/2 second to pull back the slide.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3335 of 5179 (750930)
02-24-2015 11:51 AM
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02-24-2015 11:44 AM


Re: readily available vs negligently ready
Too much time for what?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 3349 of 5179 (753833)
03-22-2015 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 3348 by Jon
03-22-2015 5:23 PM


Re: Slovene Home Guard
The number of governments that have been abusive to their people is far greater than the number of governments that have been benevolent.
As a simple matter of statistics it is nave to presume any government an exception to this trend.
Provide the statistics and define "abusive to their people". Without that info you are just pissing in the wind.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3367 of 5179 (754003)
03-23-2015 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 3363 by New Cat's Eye
03-23-2015 3:38 PM


Re: Slovene Home Guard
Really? How many of these guns are out there and how big of a threat are they really to the police?
One is a threat, but we know there are more than one.
http://www.sigsauer.com/...ogProductDetails/p556-pistol.aspx
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They are quite popular with the ammosexual set. A 5.56 round out of these pistols is quite devastating. More powerful than a 357 mag and a lot more distance. You put a steel core on the bullet and it is going to shred police vests. There is no need for this round to be in general circulation.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3373 of 5179 (755656)
04-10-2015 12:48 PM
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04-10-2015 12:44 PM


Re: Even the NRA Thinks Guns Are Too Dangerous for an NRA Convention
You really are going to go with the false flag argument? Well I guess when you got nothing. But prob best when ya got nothing to say nothing.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3381 of 5179 (755679)
04-10-2015 3:44 PM
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04-10-2015 1:48 PM


Re: Even the NRA Thinks Guns Are Too Dangerous for an NRA Convention
No worth it for just 2 hours of work. Now if they offered 8 hours or more, maybe.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3425 of 5179 (759622)
06-13-2015 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 3413 by Faith
06-13-2015 3:08 AM


Re: Silly gun-happy America
Oh when did the Nazi's invade Britain? Armed civilians would have been cut down like wheat by the Germans. They would have been no more than a minor nuisance to the heavily armed and highly trained German army.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3426 of 5179 (759623)
06-13-2015 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 3423 by mikechell
06-13-2015 2:28 PM


Re: Another one bites the dust.
What you will never hear, because our news agencies (and yours) tend to shy away from good news, is the number of crimes that are prevented by gun owners.
Oh a conspiracy? I assume you have some sort of evidence for this assertion. Or are you going to rely on evidence by anecdote?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3434 of 5179 (759639)
06-13-2015 10:22 PM
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06-13-2015 8:21 PM


Re: Another one bites the dust.
Boy you really told him. You also showed you have no argument. But boy, you sure told him.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 3439 of 5179 (759667)
06-14-2015 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 3435 by mikechell
06-13-2015 11:40 PM


Re: Okay ... off the debate horse and onto reality.
2) Even if the government outlawed them, no one would willingly give them up.
There are no serious proposals to outlaw guns. More regulation is what is being advocated.
3) At this moment, starting next month (7/15/2015), the American Government is starting a military joint exercise called "Jade-Helm-15". In several States, they have closed Walmart Stores and are using the space to amass military equipment. The premise of the exercise is to prepare the military for "urban set up and combat." There are currently trains of box cars with shackles on the inside, traveling across America.
Please provide you evidence the US Government closed WalMart stores to amass military equipment. Also, what is you source for he premise you espouse? Finally, provide your source for the shackle trains.
4) One of the reasons for the 2nd Amendment is to protect ourselves if the government gets to thinking it's a dictatorship.
Provide relevant writings from the Founding Fathers to support this theory.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 3446 of 5179 (759685)
06-14-2015 12:04 PM
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06-14-2015 11:07 AM


Re: Okay ... off the debate horse and onto reality.
So nothing at all to support your insane assertions about Jade Helm. I really didn't expect any.
The quote is not quote from Jefferson. It has made the rounds of all the gun nuts, but it is a lie. The quote didn't even exist until 1989.
Thomas Jefferson Encyclopedia | Thomas Jefferson's Monticello
Liars for guns are no different than liars for Jesus.
So you have absolutely nothing to back up anything in your post. You might want to reconsider your style of argumentation. It doesn't see m to work so well.
You might want to drop your signature.
evidence over faith ... observation over theory
Because you are not using evidence or observation. You accept things on faith and gut feeling. Not very scientific.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 3453 of 5179 (759698)
06-14-2015 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 3450 by mikechell
06-14-2015 1:12 PM


Re: Okay ... off the debate horse and onto reality.
You continue to display a complete lack of understanding of economics. The purpose of government is not to make a profit but to provide services. Why do you feel the wealthy deserve more from the government than the poor?
Then again skip it. You have dragged us off topic again in order to peddle your right wing talking points that have no basis in fact or reality.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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