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Topic: Gun Control Again
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
Also, because they both carry a gun, he and his wife are statistically much more likely to kill each other than be killed by a stranger.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3510 of 5179 (759879)
06-15-2015 6:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 3509 by Jon
06-15-2015 6:34 PM
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
I was just making up numbers to illustrate my point.
But using invalid statistics makes the point invalid. Do you understand risk analysis at all? Using your arguments no one could ever get insurance. If you cannot understand the magnitudes difference in risk between driving a car and the risk of owning a gun then I wonder how you exist day to day. You arguments have gone from silly to ridiculous.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Re: Another one bites the dust.
Why did you post something that supports the opposite of your argument? What you posted shows the strength of Dr. Adequates argument.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3519 of 5179 (759929)
06-16-2015 9:04 AM
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Reply to: Message 3517 by Percy
06-16-2015 7:34 AM
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Re: Daily Vehicle Deaths
As I said before using invalid statistics makes the argument invalid. Especially when the statistics are off by orders of magnitude, And if you look at the statistics, even though there are more vehicles on the road and more miles driven, automobile fatalities are drastically down since the 1970's. The reason for this is improved safety regulations and licensing requirements. Items that are absent from guns for the most part. Motor vehicle fatality rate in U.S. by year - Wikipedia
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3600 of 5179 (760384)
06-21-2015 9:17 AM
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Reply to: Message 3596 by Faith
06-21-2015 1:15 AM
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Re: 9 dead in SC
Your hate is disgusting. How many Islamic people have been involved in mass shooting in the U.S.? What is the predominate religion of those shooters? What is the relative Islamic population in Europe compared to the U.S.? Why do you bother climbing out from under that rock?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3619 of 5179 (760411)
06-21-2015 3:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 3601 by Faith
06-21-2015 9:23 AM
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Re: 9 dead in SC
So instead of answering my questions you instead decide to go on a evidence free, racist rant. Classic. Please show how I have expressed hate of any kind, never mind virulent hate.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3620 of 5179 (760413)
06-21-2015 3:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 3611 by Faith
06-21-2015 1:39 PM
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Re: 9 dead in SC
Isn't it obvious that if just one person in the Bible Study had a gun many would not have died?
No. It is not.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3639 of 5179 (760439)
06-21-2015 9:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 3629 by marc9000
06-21-2015 7:57 PM
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Re: 9 dead in SC
You might want to go to a reputable site and actually read facts about Switzerland. Right wing nut job sites are not reputable. The first statement is not true. The second is true because men between 20 and 30 are members of the military or militia. I would have no trouble for people to have to be part of a well regulated militia in order to have a gun(actually that is what the Constitution actually says). The third statement is not true. Do you actually think a comparison between the US and Switzerland is valid? Here are some facts about guns in Switzerland. Most are not in homes. http://www.washingtonpost.com/...-are-not-gun-toting-utopias
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3649 of 5179 (760449)
06-21-2015 10:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 3642 by marc9000
06-21-2015 9:16 PM
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Re: 9 dead in SC
No. Your source is wrong, mine is right. If you took 15 mins you could verify that. But you won't because you refuse to consider any data that is contrary to your preconceived ideas. I have facts and data on my side. You have an unsourced whack job website. Gee, I wonder which would be more accurate.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3665 of 5179 (760498)
06-22-2015 2:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 3663 by Faith
06-22-2015 2:07 PM
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Re: 9 dead in SC: a racist act but God brings good out of evil
Why such vitriol and hate?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3672 of 5179 (760521)
06-22-2015 7:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 3670 by marc9000
06-22-2015 7:05 PM
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Re: 9 dead in SC: a racist act but God brings good out of evil
You obviously dont understand straw man.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3687 of 5179 (760567)
06-23-2015 11:09 AM
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Reply to: Message 3673 by marc9000
06-22-2015 7:37 PM
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Re: 9 dead in SC
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
Correlation is not causation. If you want to provide more evidence, I would love to see it. But the copypasta is meaningless and mostly just blatantly stupid. That you think any of this is a valid argument goes to show your low ability to do any critical thinking.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3704 of 5179 (760644)
06-24-2015 9:36 AM
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Reply to: Message 3700 by marc9000
06-23-2015 9:35 PM
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Re: 9 dead in SC
Your poor fee-fees. We all know why you wont respond. You have nothing but assertions and misrepresentations of facts and history. You also have a marked lack of understanding of many logical fallacies. Someone restating your arguments in different words is not a straw man.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3715 of 5179 (760664)
06-24-2015 1:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 3705 by Faith
06-24-2015 9:40 AM
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Re: Bizarro is in the minds of the gun control people
Just because the possibility of government tyranny is a major reason for the second amendment
No it is not. Read the founders writings, read actual history texts.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Re: 9 dead in SC
Too funny and he was claiming about strawman arguments.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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