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Why are we arguing gun control, when alcohol related deaths are much more frequent?
Why are we blaming an inanimate object for the problems PEOPLE are causing?
As for criminals, why should we give them another chance to rape/kill or steal from someone else that cannot protect themselves?

We already have numerous gun laws, thus gun control. Why do we need more. Those committing crimes are breaking numerous laws already, so what will more laws bring?As for america being second to last, where are you finding this info?? I have been around the world in numerous jobs in differing lives(jobs) and can name numerous countries that have mass killing daily.Also, murder rates are not gun centric. Love to see a breakdown of each type.Vehicles can be used just like guns to kill people. Should we get rid of cars? No, because they are useful and being used wrong, just like guns. With the average response time in my city of over 10 min (detroit was much worse), I would prefer to have the chance to defend myself from a criminal. If you do not want that, then please give me your guns Does anyone even know the true meaning of the 2nd??? Jefferson said it best, when he made it clear it is to defend the people from tyranny by the gov't. If you believe it isn't possible, then I cannot help you.

I have never blacked out due to shooting too much
I have never woke up next to a perfect stranger due to a gun in my hand
I have never been in a traffic accident due to my gun on the seat
Alcohol changes your mind set and makes you unaware of your decisions, thus putting those around you in danger.
Guns do not. Please argue this intelligibly

I will keep my guns to protect my family and you guys are welcome to waive your right to them. You are also free to waive anti-biotics, healthy living and anything else that is considered a safety measure.For those that want to wait for the police, set a timer to 10 minutes, best case and picture yourself in your home with a couple perps with knives etc. They can do a lot of damage in 1 minute, let alone 10.Guns don't kill people, people do I question the sanity of any fool that says otherwise.

Your arguments are illogical. You have shown yourself to be a person that regurgitates talking points and lacks the ability to think reasonably.You are blaming an inanimate object???? Stabbings? Do you get out much? Stabbings and beatings are very frequent. Continue to drink the kool-aid though. Check the FBI stats for murders and assaults by weapon type. Look at the states that have the most, then look at their gun laws.Again, feel free to exercise your right to be unarmed. As for me, I want the criminal to fear me and those who I am responsible to protect. Also, I am the one who will shoot an intruder, because he is there with evil intentions.IT IS NOT THE GUNS. IT IS THE PEOPLE.

Coragyps,
Very gentlemanly of you to defend moose
As for my arguments, please read above so I don't have to spell it out again. If enough criminals get killed by law abiding citizens protecting themselves, they will start to question their illegal and wicked ways.
Your arguments are ridiculous, but I expected it, so luckily it wasn't a surprise Please feel free to disarm yourself. You have my utmost support. Many criminals can be talked into changing their ways.

It seems that all 12000 of your posts contributed about this much to the conversations So, when you cannot add to the debate intelligently, you make these type of comments. When criminals are threatened, they will not commit the crimes. I am starting to question if you are one.....

Looks like you cannot debate his points logically, so you revert to the standard "gun nut" and "racism" terms Love it! Now, let's try to use logical arguments.Quick question: If i brought up the fact that black on black crime is higher than other demographics, would that be racist? What if I were referring to a valid study? Still racist? What if I were black? And, what exactly is a "gun nut"? Edited by mram10, : No reason given.

Straggler,
I would argue the validity of that study, based on my experience with those that own numerous guns. Also, they need to include the demographics of those committing the crimes, as well as numerous other variables. Number of inanimate objects (guns) would not make any sense in controlling the human mind I'm sure Harvard is not biased. Should I bring NRA studies to the table also? I am guessing you would make the same argument.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.

Where is your evidence?? As a scientist, I don't just throw out blanket irrational statements as fact I am sure it is easier to jump on the left wing bandwagon to feel like one of the "cool kids", but you risk looking foolish when you make unfounded and false comments just to push your agenda.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.

That is a great idea. Maybe we should make laws stating felons shouldn't have them. Wait a minute .... Let me guess, you are against the death penalty. Is that true?

How many "jealous rage" murders have we had?? I didn't know it was legal. Maybe we should start by taking the guns of those that choose to use alcohol, drugs (illegal and legal), etc.As for your "root" problem, I would argue it is the moral condition of people. The steel, rubber, plastic and wood do not soak through your skin and cause you to go on a rampage.Weird that "Americans" think that a gun can increase your self defense ability This is a ridiculous statement. Speaking of drugs ..... nevermind Oh, let's do I will get right on that.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.

The opinions of those that disregard everything said that doesn't agree with their view, and loves to make snide comments about "creationists" is "misplaced".Take a look at my past questions and the response it got from biased people on here, that simply made rude comments with no scientific answers. If you agree they are in the right acting like this, then your opinion doesn't matter to me

NoNukes, You consider that hard? "Most likely", based on what? How would I reduce gun deaths? Let's start by changing people's hearts, mind set, etc. Logically, you cannot blame a gun for what a person decides to do with it.Also, stop being dishonest. I never called anyone a "non-scientist" before engaging them. That came after rude and off topic comments by those.Either way, let's get back on topic. Gun control (or any other control) will not work while people with wicked intentions wish to act on them. It is like the knife laws out there. Will allowing people to carry 4" or less knives stop crime by wicked people? No.Also, It is funny when some posters choose to give the benefit of the doubt to the criminal. You cannot mind read and do not know the intentions of someone breaking into your house. If you choose to give them the benefit of the doubt, enjoy yourself As for thinking you are idiots, I think those attacking me are biased and afraid of anyone bringing questions to the table that do not agree with their ideas. I have learned a lot on this site, so intelligence is here. I am just no the type to sit by and have someone attack me after a simple question, without acknowledging their attack.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.Edited by mram10, : No reason given.

For some strange reason, I am on the side of people make choices You could give me a big red nuke button and I would not push it because, wait for it ....... it is wrong! Maybe that is the downfall of less evolved people that were taught to "love God and love your neighbor as yourself" growing up What does pro-gun lobby have to do with me? I don't get a check for supporting gun laws. I have a logical test I follow Is my family safer with my ability to defend them, with or without a gun?
Is trusting the police to respond before damage is done to my family logical?
Will this gun change me in a way that causes me to be a danger to those around me?Maybe animals that choose not to control their urges have a problem with weapons, but I don't. Maybe I am just more highly evolved