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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... How about weed. A guy can drive over to Colorado, buy some weed, and then bring it back to his state where its still illegal.
Of course, while the analogy works, it doesn't support your position. My position is that we do not need to sound the alarms and get the Feds involved, but instead should leave this up to the States. Do you think we should have the Feds crack down on Colorado to protect all those people in the neighboring states from having weed illegally brought in? But your example is better used to support some federal involvement to ensure that either laws are similar in all the states or that crossing state borders increases the legal penalties (which they do have the right to do). Personally I see no reason why the feds should not (a) require registered ownership of guns or have some means to track guns used in crimes back to the owner(b) require background checks for all gun ownership transferals (c) require ammunition and raw gun powder to have "marker micro-confetti" that can be tracked back to who purchased it and where. There would be no impact on self-defense usage, or recreational usage. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
In light of the heinous actions of the NSA, I'm not going to trust the Feds with something that purposefully provides them with more information about my guns. ... so you would be okay with ammo\powder having micro-confetti to track sources and buyers, but don't want to register your guns because of some kind of NRA paranoia, and you think they don't have all the information they need already? So you're part of the problem? by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Is that you admitting that their ultimate goal is not saving kids lives in schools? Prediction: within 2 years a gun in a school ostensibly to prevent or reduce school shootings ... will be used in a school shooting or accidental death. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... so you would be okay with ammo\powder having micro-confetti to track sources and buyers, I'm okay with it existing, but I wouldn't buy it or shoot it. Why? This is a simple way to track bullets used in crimes regardless of gun ownership or type of gun. What harm does it pose to you for recreational use or for self defense use?
TASER shoots ID confetti leading to arrests in violin robbery quote: Simple, no-brainer, everyone benefits. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I'm not sure why you would smile at that... More of a grimace, but certainly the irony would have a certain level of black humor. The law of unintended consequences will always produce some results counter to the intentions.
In those two years, apparently, more kids will die in bicycle accidents at school. If your ultimate goal was saving kids lives at schools, then your efforts would be better focused on bicycle safety. Curiously I can be focused on bicycle safety at the same time -- not just for kids but for all cyclists, which is increasing as more people move away from fossil fuels. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Sooner. Yes, but a pretty sure thing in two.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
After background checks were scrapped in Missouri
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
background checks cannot affect legitimate use, but it can affect illegitimate use.
And if the end result is fewer gun deaths, then it is a positive result. No brainer.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Whoa, wait. If people are obtaining guns illegally, like they borrow it from their cousin, then how can background checks affect that? If you give a cousin a gun because they cannot pass a background check then you are at fault, you are aiding and abetting.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Whoa, wait. If people are obtaining guns illegally, like they borrow it from their cousin, then how can background checks affect that?
If you give a cousin a gun because they cannot pass a background check then you are at fault, you are aiding and abetting. And that would be an illegitimate use, so how do you square that with this:
quote: Because the onus is on the registered gun owner to ensure that the gun is used properly. You are responsible as the registered owner, so you better be careful who you lend then out to and what it is used for. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Disarming the citizens would make it easier for a coup to take place, right? You mean like the one going on now as billionaires buy up congress and get laws passed to get them even more entrenched in controlling the state and federal governments ... all while they keep you distracted about dems "wanting to take your guns" and "national security" and reducing citizen rights (patriot act, citizen's united, ALEC laws, etc) -- that one? Or do you mean the fake fantasy one they keep warning you about ... ? by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Man shoots himself in the head while demonstrating gun safety
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
ya there is a bullet in the chamber, so removing the clip does not make it safe...
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
belongs on Loony Of The Week thread ...
Is "leveling the life of someone" a new euphemism for assassination? Sounds like terrorism to me. Homegrown. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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